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The OWASP Foundation http://www.owasp.org Making Security Invisible by Becoming the Developer's Best Friends OWASP AppSec Latam 2011 (Brazil) Dinis Cruz [email protected] Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Dinis Cruz Long-time OWASP contributor OWASP O2 Platform (project) OWASP Seasons of Code OWASP Summits (2008 & 2011) OWASP Training Days OWASP Books Helped multiple chapters and conferences Multiple tools & research at OWASP .NET Setup Application Security Team at Global Bank Performed Security Reviews (White and Black box) on 100s of apps Credited for vulnerability on .NET Framework and vulnerability on Spring MVC Worked for OunceLabs (now IBM AppScan Source) and made it work Didn’t joined IBM (after OunceLabs acquisition) and spent 18 months rewriting the OWASP O2 platform (and making my vision a reality) Currently at Security Innovation (Boston/Seattle company) Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Dinis @ Security Innovation Responsible for the TeamMentor product i.e. I’m shipping code SI is going to Commercially Support the OWASP O2 Platform with a focus on findings-automation and security-tools-integration SI is a strong OWASP Supporter Silver sponsor at AppSec USA published OWASP TeamMentor Library under CC (Creative Commons) published OWASP Top 10 e-learning course under CC helping the clarify the commercial relationship with OWASP’s ecosystem Sponsored me to come here 3 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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OWASP is Amazing Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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owasp band 7 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Don’t stop asking ‘why not?’ 8 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Don’t stop asking ‘why not?’ Try new ideas: 8 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Don’t stop asking ‘why not?’ Try new ideas: 8 Barefoot walking/running Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Don’t stop asking ‘why not?’ Try new ideas: 8 Barefoot walking/running Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Don’t stop asking ‘why not?’ Try new ideas: 8 Barefoot walking/running Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I’m a developer Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Yes I have shipped code 10 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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11 O2 PLATFORM OWASP TeamMentor Security Innovation Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I’m going to speak as the developer of 12 and a couple other apps: HacmeBank, JPetstore, Altoro Mutual Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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for which security IS NOT a priority 13 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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it is important 14 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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but not a priority 15 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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In fact I want to security to be INVISIBLE (or transparent) 16 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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As with every other developer, I don’t want my app to have security vulnerabilities 17 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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So I’m happy to help the ‘security’ process... 18 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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... as long as the workflow ‘works’ for me and my team 19 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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and at the moment it doesn’t 20 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Dear Security teams / vendors Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Understand this: 22 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Features and Functionality Rule! 23 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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You (security teams) are quite in the bottom of the food chain 24 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I’m smart If I wasn’t smart I wouldn’t be working (& paid) as a developer 25 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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If I’m not Smart don’t tell that to my boss (specially NOT in a report format) 26 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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If I’m not Smart Make me Smart! 27 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Since I’m smart Make me a HERO 28 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Actually In the real world the issue is usually not ‘smart’ but ‘experience on the APIs/Framworks used’ 29 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Another important topic 30 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I’m not a security expert 31 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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that is YOUR job 32 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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if you want to talk about: jQuery, Javascript, MVC, Reflection, Hibernate, Struts, AoP, High performance Algorithms, Compression techniques, cache management, Agile, Pointers, Code Patterns, Authorisation Models, QA, User-acceptance- tests, Use-Cases, UML, SRCUM, StackOverflow, GIT, App Hosting/Clustering, etc.... 33 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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that’s me 34 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Security 35 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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That’s you 36 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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(btw) I’m the one creating value 37 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I’m the one making money, grabbing eyeballs, creating value or whatever the business wants to call it 38 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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YOU are a TAX As positioned today 39 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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which is why I don’t really like to talk/deal with you 40 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Quiz Question: When was the last time that developers where REALLY exited to talk with Security Teams? 41 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Yeah I can see the Queue from here..... (I think some developers would shoot Security teams if that was legal) 42 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Developers dirty secrets Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Here are a couple dirty secrets about ‘most’ development projects 44 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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The devs can’t visualise how their app works 45 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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The devs can’t visualise how their app works 45 (and management) Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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The devs don’t understand how their app works 46 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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The devs don’t understand how their app works 46 (and management) Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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The devs don’t understand how their app works 46 (and management) (and buyers) Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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The devs don’t understand how their app works 46 (and management) (and buyers) (and users) Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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In practice what does this mean? 47 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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it means that they can’t quickly answer questions like: 48 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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what are the URLs? 49 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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what data do you expect to receive from the web? 50 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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what data CAN be submitted from the web 51 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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what is the data-binding behaviour of the Frameworks used (case point MVC Frameworks) 52 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Where is my Data Validation layer 53 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Who and what connects to the databases/assets 54 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Where are my assets? 55 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Where is the Credit Card data? 56 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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What are the connections between the managed layers (C# & Java) and unmanaged layers (C/C++)? 57 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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What happens at the Javascript layer? 58 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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(easier question) What is the real CALL FLOW of a request (from the web to the backend and back to the web) 59 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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(harder question) What is the real TAINT FLOW of a request (from the web to the backend and back to the web) 60 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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(much harder question) What is the real TAINT (with CONTROL) FLOW of a request (from the web to the backend and back to the web) 61 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Bottom line: (*unless we have been attacked before) 62 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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If it compiles Ship it! (I see this behaviour at a lot of dev shops) 63 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Bottom line: (*If we have been attacked before) 64 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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If it compiles (and passes the ‘security tools’) Send it to the ‘Security Team’ (who now have funds to hire their own staff) 65 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Dealing with Security Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I care about my users 67 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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And exploitation of security vulnerabilities affects them 68 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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So by-proxy I care about security 69 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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But the current workflow between developers and security teams is.... 70 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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F****d 71 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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or more politically correct 72 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Highly inefficient 73 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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and that is on companies WITH internal security teams & awareness 74 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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It is even worse for the rest 75 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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We need a new paradigm 76 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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One where ‘application security’ ADDs value to the Business 77 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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One where ‘Application Security’ practices are deeply embedded into the SDL 78 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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One where ‘Application Security’ practices are invisible/transparent to 99% of the parties involved (the 1% are the ones directly involved in security, such as security teams, devs,architects, CISO, etc...) 79 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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but before we get to the solution, lets set the stage.... 80 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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As a developer , this is What I don’t want Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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receive a PDF (or portal) with security findings 82 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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receive a tool result with partial (or zero) context about my app 83 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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spent time sorting out the False positives created by tools 84 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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have tons of bugs filled into my bug tracking system 85 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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receive non-automated findings (that will force me to spend time replicating the issue) 86 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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receive no information on the impact of the ‘proposed fix’ the ‘blast ratio’ of a fix i.e. how much s*** will break 87 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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be ‘lectured’ by a ‘security expert’ that doesn’t understand my application 88 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I don’t want to be told to ‘go to school’ usually framed as “we need to give ‘security education’ to developers” 89 I don't want to: Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Got that? 90 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I don’t think that (even if they tried) ‘security consultants’ couldn’t OFEND more the developers than they do today 91 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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What I want Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I want to know the implications of the multiple APIs & frameworks used 93 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Ideally I should be able to use those APIs is the most efficient way 94 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I want to know when I use those APIs and Frameworks incorrectly 95 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I want to understand my Application! 96 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Can YOU do that? 97 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Can you help me to understand my Application? 98 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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because, as a developer 99 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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if you can help me to understand my Application ... 100 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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... you add value to my world.... 101 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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if you don’t help me to understand how my Application works 102 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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you are a TAX that I have to Pay or an INSURANCE that I have to Pay 103 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Did you noticed the lack of ‘security’ in the last slides? :) 104 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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let’s try this again 105 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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What I want from a security point of view (in red) Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I want to know the Security implications of the multiple APIs & frameworks used 107 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Ideally i should only be able to use those APIs in a SECURE way 108 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I want to know when I use those APIs and Frameworks insecurely 109 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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I want to understand the security risk profile of my Application! 110 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Making Security Invisible by becoming the developer’s best friend Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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So how was I able to do what I wanted (from both a security and developer point of view) 112 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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using the OWASP O2 Platform 113 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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DEMO TIME..... 114 Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Any questions? Tuesday, 8 November 2011

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Thanks 116 Tuesday, 8 November 2011