Penetration Testing is Stupid - BsidesSF 2013
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Penetration Testing is stupid
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Brett Hardin @miscsecurity
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pentesters
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Why Who Where When What PENETRATION TESTING Why Who Where When What
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Why Who Where When What PENETRATION TESTING What
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Audience Participation Educated Guess?
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A live test of the effectiveness of security defenses through mimicking the actions of real-life attackers. ISACA
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test security defenses
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mimicking real-life attackers
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MIMIC THE REAL
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Gunter Ollmann of Damballa on Real Attacks
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Submit CV 2000
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USB Keys 2005 2000
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Buy the machine 2009+ 2005 2000
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Penetration tests are unique
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Penetration testers are friendly
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Penetration tests don’t simulate attacks
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Why Who Where When What PENETRATION TESTING Who
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The Average Penetration tester
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performed by
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Jack Nicholson
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I’M A PROFESSIONAL TRUST ME.
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I’LL TRY ‘PASSWORD’
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I’LL TRY ‘PA55WORD’
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LET ME IN. PLEASE.
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YOU WILL LET ME IN.
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WE’RE FRIENDS
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WHY CAN’T I GET IN?
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LOOK, A WAY IN.
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THEY WERE SO DUMB
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I’M GONNA REDRUM HIM
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pentesters
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The average penetration tester
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The average are common
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The average are necessary
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The average are cheap
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The average are simple to copy
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The average follow methodologies
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The best penetration testers
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The best are rare
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The best invent new attacks
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The best are expensive
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The best are overkill
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The best mimic the real
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The average mimic tools
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MIMIC THE REAL
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MIMIC THE REAL
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Why Who Where When What PENETRATION TESTING When
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ATTACKS happen when you’re asleep
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ATTACKS happen when you’re on vacation
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ATTACKS happen when you have no budget
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ATTACKS happen when during business hours
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ATTACKS happen when you are not ready
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ATTACKS happen when you are ready PENTESTS
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Date&Time&Resources
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Attackers aren’t limited by resources
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MIMIC THE REAL
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MIMIC THE REAL
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Why Who Where When What PENETRATION TESTING Where
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Rules of Engagement
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Internet
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Web Application only
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On-site
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Dialup
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The Wi-fi’s
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‘puters
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News Flash
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Attackers don’t care
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Limits
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Attackers aren’t limited by resources previously learned
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Attackers aren’t limited by resources Revision
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Attackers aren’t limited
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Phone
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MIMIC THE REAL
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Why Who Where When What PENETRATION TESTING Why
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Penetration testing isn’t important
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Penetration testing isn’t important to most organizations
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Penetration testing doesn’t secure you
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Penetration testing tests defenses
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required We’ve Convinced Everyone* it’s
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TANGENT ALERT
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Penetration Testers love to diss vendors
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Penetration Testers are vendors
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BACK TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM
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Penetration testing proves two things
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Penetration testing proves vulnerability One
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Penetration testing proves vulnerability adjective One
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Penetration testing identifies a few* risky issues Two
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Penetration testing identifies a few* risky issues * Actual Results may vary Two
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known and unknown
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new exploits aren’t needed
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known exploits work
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low-hanging fruit
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expensive & rare New Exploits
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MIMIC THE REAL
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When pen testing isn’t stupid
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No more defensive ideas
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No more low-hanging fruit
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Management wants to assess security controls
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check&balance
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Why Who Where When What < Attackers are unique
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Why Who Where When What < Different attack methods
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Why Who Where When What < Unlimited by time
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Why Who Where When What No Rules of Engagement <
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Why Who Where When What < Doesn’t protect you
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Penetration Tests don’t mimic real attacks summary
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Penetration Tests don’t secure you summary
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Penetration Tests test your defenses summary
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Thanks.
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Brett Hardin http://bretthard.in