when doing this 11:50:56 AM Mark Funk: dont point stuff to a primitive 11:52:15 AM Mark Funk: eg. var x = { value: 'bob' }, var b = x.value, var c = x; if you change value 'c' would be updated but not b. Thats simple javascript but it always seems to trip people up so i thought it was worth mentioning 11:57:08 AM Mark Funk: just be safe when binding, never bind to myCoolInput, bind to myCoolInput.value 4:38:47 PM Jake Coogle: heh... yup, running in to that primitives behavior you warned me about