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Yevhen "Eugene" Kuzminov
September 03, 2016
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or bittersweet lessons learned from the Ruby ecosystem “We like
to hate PHP” Ievgen Kuzminov. MobiDev. Kharkiv, Ukraine.
PHP is bad/slow/wrong/ugly… ? http://phpsadness.com/ Unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Ruby is not better It is just a different mindset
Ievgen Kuzminov http://stdout.in @iJackUA 6 years in PHP 2 years
in Ruby Currently: Ruby Team Lead in MobiDev Author of http://rwdtow.stdout.in
How to start a rant? http://stdout.in/en/post/ruby-ecosystem-bitte rsweet-or-we-like-to-hate-php
Healthy ecosystem: ▣ Frameworks pluralism ▣ Libraries agnosticism ▣ Tools,
that just work
Recent decade of The Web Dev
‘’ Vicious circle of demand
1) Symfony 2) Laravel 3) Yii 4) Slim ... How
many framework are in production? 1) Ruby on Rails ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Frameworks are cheating! ▣ Do not teach to write better
code ▣ Teach to use the framework only ▣ “In which folder should I put this class?”
What is it ? (Uncle Bob)
▣ Framework ▣ CMS ▣ Library Have you ever written
your OWN...
▣ Learn the other language to get better view on
your “native” one ▣ Traits/mixins are not “composition” ▣ Now I consider OOP as an “issue” I thought I knew OOP
▣ Not an end in itself, but the criterion ▣
Harder to follow with dynamic composition ▣ Dependency Injection. WAT ? SOLID
None
...or they don't have a chance because people can't look
further the Rails monster. (C)
Evolution and Performance
PHP FIG Community and Standards
▣ Composer ▣ The League of Extraordinary Packages ▣ Aura
for PHP Packages ▣ Bundler / Gems ▣ Dry-Web
Monkey-patching What is it? Example: 5.minutes.ago vs TimeMath.minutes.decrease(Time.now, 5)
Ruby or Rails? Array ▣ first ▣ second ▣ last
▣ second_to_last ▣ third_to_last ▣ forty_two
Syntax, DSL, metaprogramming Ruby has less parenthesis and formatting issues.
Can handle DSL and metaprogramming. PHP has less possibilities… and that’s fine! Who cares when your IDE has autocomplete.
▣ PSR-4 rules! Modules and Namespaces ▣ Constants autoload hell
▣ Zend Expressive ▣ Slim ▣ Laravel ▣ ... Middlewares
Architecture inspiration Sandi Metz Nick Sutterer
The Clean Architecture by Uncle Bob
Trailblazer
Business logic architecture in PHP ▣ MVC is not enough
▣ Dependency Injection is not a silver bullet ▣ DCI ▣ CQRS (https://github.com/qandidate-labs/broadway) ▣ ?
Learn SQL. I mean it! ORM vs SQL
Where Ruby outperforms PHP Background jobs and queues
Where PHP outperforms Ruby Code debug
▣ PHPUnit ▣ Codeception ▣ Just recently became “a must”
▣ Who write tests? Automated testing ▣ Minitest / RSpec ▣ Capybara ▣ Propagated by Rails ▣ “TDD is dead” © DHH
Ideal PHP world for me ▣ Simple and reliable frameworks
▣ Agnostic middlewares ▣ Architectural framework ▣ Loosely-coupled tools/libs
“Haters gonna hate” (C) Break bad! Change the paradigm! Elixir,
Go, Closure…
Thank you!
[email protected]
http://stdout.in @iJackUA Questions ?