don't know who's popular, why they're popular, where the other kids hang out after school, what teachers they're mocking, what couples they're gossiping about. I remember feeling totally overwhelmed at my first Django sprint...I didn't know anyone, I didn't know Django internals very well, and I had no idea where to start. My initial suggestions were pretty severely rebuffed. In retrospect, I see exactly why, but at the time it would have been easy to declare that "these core devs are dumb and don't understand my pain", or ask "why won't they just commit my patch?" Marty Alchin Author, Pro Django Carl Meyer Django Core Russell Keith-Magee President of the DSF Wednesday, May 15, 13