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SEO is Dead Long Live SEO - Updated State of Se...

SEO is Dead Long Live SEO - Updated State of Search Keynote

This is the updated version of my SEO is Dead Keynote that I performed at State of Search Dallas - October 2025.

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Ryan Jones

November 03, 2025
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  1. @RyanJones My day job Title: SVP, SEO Role: I co-run

    the SEO Practice How Long: going on 15 years Company name changes: 6 (so far)
  2. @RyanJones My night job What: SEO Tool Based on Information

    Retrieval Features: AI Share of voice, GEO Optimization, Real metrics! Sign up: SERPrecon.com (everyone gets a free trial!) Coupon Code: SOS25. (25% off FOR LIFE!) Swag? Stickers – come see me
  3. @RyanJones Slide 2: The Myth [Big bold quote on screen:

    "SEO is dead."] Script: How many times have we seen this headline? Every time the algorithm changes, someone sounds the alarm. But this time, it's different, right? Because now AI is answering questions for us. It's summarizing. It's skipping the blue links. So... is SEO really dead? What we're seeing isn't the death of SEO. It's the evolution of search. Google, ChatGPT , Perplexity — they're not just giving us a list of results. They're giving us answers. Which means the game has changed.
  4. @RyanJones Publisher monetization and traffic impact GenAI answers often provide

    direct responses, reducing the need for users to click through to a website. This could significantly decrease website traffic, ad revenue, lead generation and e- commerce transactions. Visibility in AI Responses Brands fear their content may not be included in AI-generated summaries, diminishing visibility and authority in key topics. Additionally, if competitors are featured where we are not, brands risk losing SOV and trust. Data Ownership and Attribution Brands have concerns about how their content is used, cited and credited in AI-generated responses. With fewer visitors to owned properties, brands will lose valuable first-party data for personalization and retargeting. Conversion Funnel Disruption Without clicks to owned properties, brands risk losing control of their customer journey and data collection, making it harder to convert visitors into paying customers. Brands may need to rely on paid channels to make up for lost traffic. Brands Are Concerned
  5. @RyanJones We Looked At Data On How People Typically Discover

    New Brands And Products: Confidential 13 1. Search Engines (43%) Top 5 discovery channels in 2016*: Top 5 discovery channels in 2025*: 2. Ads On TV (40%) 5. TV/Films (26%) 3. Ads Online/ In-App (37%) 4. WOM (36%) 1. Ads Online/In-App (35%) 2. Search Engines (34%) 5. Wom (30%) 3. Ads on TV (32%) 4. Ads on Social Media (30%) Source: GWI Core | 2024 GWI Study * Percentages represent total global respondents citing the channel as one used for discovering new brands and/or products
  6. @RyanJones 14 The Biggest Declines 1. Ads In Print (-42%)

    2. Search Engines (-20%) 3. Ads On TV (-20%) The Biggest Increases 1. Vlogs (+37%) 2. Brand’s Social Posts (+20%) 3. Endorsements From Celeb. /Influencers (+15%) Source: GWI Core | 2024 GWI Study • 67% of consumers* now use at least one social platform for search • 48% of consumers globally now interact with an AI chatbot at least once a week
  7. @RyanJones Google is still dominating Google 90% Other 5% Bing

    3% Yahoo 2% Search Market Share 5.8% 13.5% 14.4% 59.4% Gen AI Market Share AI vs Google Market Share 21.9M 350M 376.6M 517M 16.5B 31.8X
  8. @RyanJones By The Numbers: AIOs Impact On Google Results 16

    Keywords with “informational” intent triggered AI Overviews (Ahrefs). Decrease in CTR on those informational keywords containing an AI Overview (ibid). Number of keywords examined within the Ahrefs study that identified these findings (ibid). YoY Increase in search impressions (BrightEdge). Decrease in CTR to those results (ibid). Increase in queries of 8+ words (ibid). 49% 7x 99.2% -30% -34% 150K
  9. @RyanJones Need to change how we think of SEO. We

    have to update our branding. Clients have a real problem. We can’t say “it’s just SEO” That traffic is gone.
  10. @RyanJones What is good SEO? Semantic Relevance Topics & Passages

    User Intent Value Add Quality, Uniqueness, Relevance, Authority, Trust, Expertise Real Marketing Ambient Findability
  11. @RyanJones Gen AI drives less than 1% of traffic across

    major brands Source: Publicis Groupe Clients 0.08% 0.1% 0.06% 0.1% 0.02% Appliances Insurance Finance Healthcare Spirits 99% of AI traffic is from ChatGPT 0.02% Auto
  12. @RyanJones BOTH of these are True! AI increases clicks (for

    some) and others aren’t coming back. Source: Advanced Web Ranking
  13. @RyanJones Most AI searches have 0 historical search volume. 80%

    of these 1,955 keywords have <100 monthly searches.
  14. @RyanJones It’s time to evolve: Full funnel engagement Semantic relevance

    SOV / Visibility Keywords Organic rankings Upper funnel awareness FROM Multi-modal AI search AI Overviews / Citations Quick Answers / People Also Ask TO AI systems Search algorithms Text / voice queries
  15. @RyanJones This is NOT a bad thing for the business

    It’s only bad for the SEO reporting Silo
  16. @RyanJones The new user It's not just a person behind

    a keyboard. It's also the AI model reading your content before the person ever sees it. AI is now the first audience. It decides what to include, quote, or reference — using Search. We're not just optimizing for people anymore — we're optimizing for machines that summarize for people.
  17. @RyanJones This is what we care about! In English: give

    me documents that match the queries I just generated.
  18. @RyanJones You don’t need to rank for that query. You

    need to be retrieved for semantically relevant queries. (sorry link builders and guest posters)
  19. @RyanJones How do teams and SEOs adjust for this future?

    How does the C suite adjust? “Just make my clicks go up” “they’re not coming back” If “it’s just SEO” why do you need more $$?
  20. @RyanJones Step 4: Start Owning AI Others (e.g. social) are

    looking at it through the wrong lens (Sentiment)
  21. @RyanJones All of the AI System prompts are here: https://github.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks

    Measuring sentiment of AI answers makes no sense If asked to represent a specific side of a controversial issue, follow the user’s instructions while still maintaining a neutral, distanced tone. For controversial topics without a clear consensus, respond in a neutral tone, summarizing the levant points of view, and don’t take a side. As an LLM, you don’t have personal opinions.
  22. @RyanJones Tools need to do better We need semantic relevance

    We need SOV and upper funnel measurement Historical Keyword Volumes won’t cut it anymore The future will NOT resemble the past
  23. @RyanJones Thank you! More Sites of Mine: WTFSEO.com SEODataViz.com ServerHeaders.com

    SEOnews.pro Use code: “SOS25” to get 25% off for LIFE! Ryan Jones SVP @WeAreRazorfish @RyanJones Linkedin.com/in/jonesy www.RyanMJones.com