of 5 that existing resources are not tailored to the specific needs of women with intellectual disabilities, constraining their capacity safely to engage with their supporters. So where do we start? We knew that if we were going to - we got given some funding to deliver a project and I knew that if we were going to deliver a quality product that could help women with disabilities that we needed to develop a co design for women with disabilities. We were lucky to work with eight from across Australia who involved projects from the inception to the deployment of the app. Some of the women had disabilities that affected their vision, some had hearing impairments, some had intellectual disabilities, some had acquired brain injuries, and some had brain injuries that affected their movement. Had had been survivors of some pretty traumatic sex use abuse. So, the journey begins. Else can else can as our journey -- CELSO BORGES: As our journey started, we realised we had done some work with 1800 RESPECT. Understanding the context and the specific needs was important. We began with just trying to understand the impact that intellectual disability has on everyday living and at the same time how the different types of violence and abuse by define ed by 1800 RESPECT and is (inaudible) for a woman with disabilities. When aligning our activities and the engagement, we wanted to underpin it with the principle I spoke about earlier. All the activities that we plan and every time we spoke some of these users there were certain considerations we had to keep in mind. SPEAKER: So, I guess there's kind of eight main areas that we took into consideration when walking with people who had women who had experienced trauma but people in general. There's a (inaudible). We always allowed to, within the resetting, we always possession the person near the door so if we were talking quite often traumatic experiences, we wanted it to be quite accessible, so people could get in there, particularly those in wheelchairs. We also avoid sitting or standing behind the participant, especially when doing the user testing. We found that never wanted to stand behind any of the women for them to feel like we were honouring their movements because we wanted their true responses. We all sit or just generally in the room with them. But not behind them. Where possible, we conducted the interview in a room that wasn't corporate. For some of our money in the (inaudible) advisory group, we had a particular cafe that we would go to. It was a quiet Hafey. So, it wasn't busy and allows for that kind of peaceful environment. And it's really important to kind of really stay away from those institutional-rooms. No-one wants to be in there, that is not conducive to real conversation or thoughts. We also made the participant aware that they could stop the interview or the session any time they wanted to. We were really up-front be how long things would take. We would say if they needed a break no judgment, we understood that. And of course, you would have your ample water and tissues within arm's reach. We also scheduled more time for the interview. So, we wouldn't do 40-minute interviews in an hour. As you will see later. One of our participants, Ang, she speaks at a slower pace because of her injury. So sometimes a one-hour interview might take three hours. But that was important to set aside the three hours because we go to hear her