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Thinking About Mormonism, by Brett Kunkle

Thinking About Mormonism, by Brett Kunkle

Brett Kunkle works with Stand To Reason: http://www.str.org/

Aaron Shafovaloff

June 29, 2012
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  1. The Prophet said it, I believe it, that settles it.

    Thomas Monson, current LDS president
  2. Colossians 2:8 “See to it that no one takes you

    captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.”
  3. "Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because

    bad philosophy needs to be answered." C.S. Lewis
  4. Epistemology What is truth? What is belief? What is their

    relationship? What is proper justification for holding the beliefs we do? How do we know what we know?
  5. “This is eternal life, that they may KNOW you, the

    only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” John 17:3
  6. If you say that it is and it is, or

    you say that it isn’t and it isn’t, that’s true. If you say that it isn’t and it is, or you say that it is and it isn’t, that’s false.
  7. ① Show that they never use this method for any

    other area of their lives. R E S P O N S E
  8. ① Show that they never use this method for any

    other area of their lives. ② Show the problems with relying on personal experience only. R E S P O N S E
  9. Have your feelings ever been wrong? Do you know any

    couples who have been sealed in the temple who are now divorced?
  10. ① Show that they never use this method for any

    other area of their lives. ② Show the problems with relying on personal experience only. ③ Show the logical problems with the content. R E S P O N S E
  11. Moroni 10:4-5 “And when ye shall receive these things, I

    would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.”
  12. ① Show that they never use this method for any

    other area of their lives. ② Show the problems with relying on personal experience only. ③ Show the logical problems with the content. ④ Show the biblical data. R E S P O N S E
  13. D & C Response D & C 9:7-8 Even their

    own Scripture doesn’t support this method
  14. For any entity X and for any entity Y, if

    X is identical to Y, then for any property P, P is true of X if and only if P is also true of Y. Leibniz’s Law of the Indiscernability of Identicals Gottfried Leibniz If two things are identical, then the two things must have all the same properties.
  15. Is Mormonism another denomination of Christianity? “My object in going

    to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong) — and which I should join.”
  16. “I was answered that I must join none of them,

    for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: ‘they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.’” - Joseph Smith History 1:18-19 (Pearl of Great Price) Is Mormonism another denomination of Christianity?
  17. And the blood of that great and abominable church, which

    is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads... 1 Nephi 22:13 Is Mormonism another denomination of Christianity?
  18. “Mormons are true Christians.” “Mormonism is Christianity; Christianity is Mormonism;

    they are one and the same, and they are not to be distinguished from each other in the minutest detail.” (in his book, Mormon Doctrine) Bruce McConkie
  19. John 17:3 “Now this is eternal life: that they may

    know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.”
  20. When I think about talking to Mormons...  I get

    so excited that I wet myself.  I feel hesitant and nervous.  I’d rather be beaten & burned. ✔ ✔ ✔