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Max Klyga
March 14, 2013
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Marmalade - Bittersweet experience
Reflections on experience of two years of development with Marmalade SDK.
Max Klyga
March 14, 2013
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Marmalade Bittersweet experience
Max Klyga @neku42
[email protected]
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Mad Hat Games • We develop mobile free2play games
Mad Hat Games • We develop mobile free2play games •
Programmers have strong C++ background
Mad Hat Games • We develop mobile free2play games •
Programmers have strong C++ background • Artists have strong Flash background
Asset Pipeline • Everything is done in Adobe Flash
Asset Pipeline • Everything is done in Adobe Flash •
Flash files are used as bundles
Asset Pipeline • Everything is done in Adobe Flash •
Flash files are used as bundles • Images are extracted from flash, packed into atlases and compressed
Engine
Engine Framework
Engine Framework • Written in C++
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Engine Framework • Written in C++ • Built on top
of Marmalade SDK
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Write once Debug everywhere
Sweet • Develop on Windows (Visual Studio) or Mac (XCode)
Sweet • Develop on Windows (Visual Studio) or Mac (XCode)
• One click deploy to iOS, Android, BADA, Blackberry, Simbian, Win Phone 8, LG TV, Desktop (Mac, Windows)
Sweet • Develop on Windows (Visual Studio) or Mac (XCode)
• One click deploy to iOS, Android, BADA, Blackberry, Simbian, Win Phone 8, LG TV, Desktop (Mac, Windows) • Simulator (!)
Bitter TOO MANY THINGS TO FIT ONE SLIDE
Bitter TOO MANY THINGS TO FIT ONE SLIDE
Bitter Build system doesn’t play well with JDK 7 (Android
SDK issue)
Bitter Build system doesn’t play well with JDK 7 (Android
SDK issue) Can be sort of fixed though decompiling build system and manual patching
Bitter Bundles OLD stlport No Visual Studio debug visualizers support
Bitter Multithreading problems: Memory can be freed only from thread
it was allocated in. Enjoy!
Bitter Network problems: One failed request can hang your application
Bitter Network problems: One failed request can hang your application
Workaround: Have no more then one request at a time
Bitter Network problems: One failed request can hang your application
Workaround: Turn off some optimisations for Marmalade internal multitasking features
Bitter Extensions problems: (missing features, bugs)
Bitter Dependencies: You need IwUtil for tracing and it depends
on a whole lot of stuff (libjpg, libpng, zlib, etc.)
Bitter Sometimes updates randomly break stuff: • Problems with ATI
cards on Simulator • Appending ‘\n’ to HTTP request body • Regressions • etc.
Bitter Virtually no support Bugs can be ignored for months
Bitter • Video playback problems • Native UI and Input
problems • Things I don’t remember
Sour Memory management: Marmalade allocates one continuous chunk of memory
from system. Replaces malloc/new. Have to write your own memory allocator on top of one provided by marmalade.
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Sour No debugging on device Logging is your friend
Conclusion Was it worth it?
Conclusion Be ready to reimplement stuff (we reimplemented facebook, music,
sound and filesystem extensions, heavily modified others)
Max Klyga @neku42
[email protected]
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