August, 2019 Page 4 of 11 everywhere. And one of the things I would love to touch on is how we deal with difference. I like explaining about leadership. Because I come from a place I have never been able to deal with the hierarchy, leadership. Because there is someone at the top, normally a white guy, kind of telling everyone else what to do, when to do it, how to do it, how loud, when to shut up. And then you get to this place they have decided – their vision, what they're going to do. And I prefer a gardening approach, which is much more like find the pretty flowers, bury them in the soil, and then basically water them and talk to them. And then let them do their thing and then other people come along and say, "What a beautiful garden!" And I'm like, "Yes, I grew it myself." My team don't listen to me, the only point of absolute decision is when I tell them to stop doing things. Because there was a was a point where you have to stop being in control, allowing experts to do what they do really well. And I am not an expert in the things that they do. So there is definitely a point where I need to become a user because that is the nearest thing I can do to being helpful. So I am quite good at that. We all have different leadership styles. I find it's like the (inaudible) industry. We have a notion of expertise which is around what is important. In this era when science is debatable. We should remember that science is debatable. Science is, as his excess, as maths is, anything apart from ballet, debatable. And the way I often construe this and explain this to people is that, do you trust your doctor? Does everyone? Mostly. You probably do now more than you did 20 years ago, because they didn't know anything. And if you trusted your doctor from 100 years ago more than today, you would be an idiot. Because we have learned. But on that logic, if you could move me forward 20 years, without ageing, and if we could move me 100 years into the future, it would be useless to suggest that the experts from hundred years ago – the physicist, neuroscientists, behavioural psychologists, environmentalists, designers, anyone – would be more trustworthy in their expertise. Because it is an evolving thing. It is a continuum, in the same way that there are small children, and as a small child, I wanted things to get better. I was excited about what was coming next. And then I don't remember the bit when everything was OK, great, perfect. I don't remember that happening. But I do remember a moment of, "Everything is going to shit, why can't it be like it was?" And what occurred to me was that every single human who has ever existed as almost certainly follow the trajectory, which means that if you mass them all together, there is a huge wave of people going, "Isn't that exciting?" And that wave will pass on in time from cave dwellers to space astronaut – isn't life exciting? Isn't it amazing what we're going to do? Equally, just ahead of them, is a group of people going, "Oh, my God! Stop."