The Thief and the Dogs - Interactive Oral Discussion #2

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1. Interactive Oral Discussion #2 The Thief and Dogs by Naguib Mahfouz Krish Dholakiya, Carrie Koushyk, Chloe Schellhase, Keenan Achziger
2. Egyptian Revolution of 1952
3. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 People wanted to:
4. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 People wanted to: • free their country from foreign influence
5. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 People wanted to: • free their country from foreign influence • find a new policy that would get rid of evils associated with feudalism and misuse of government power
6. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 What happened preceding it:
7. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 What happened preceding it: • Egypt is declared a British Protectorate upon WWI’s outbreak
8. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 What happened preceding it: • Egypt is declared a British Protectorate upon WWI’s outbreak • After WWI, nationalists wanted independence from the British
9. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 What happened preceding it: • Egypt is declared a British Protectorate upon WWI’s outbreak • After WWI, nationalists wanted independence from the British • Rebellion broke out in 1919, forcing the British to grant partial independence
10. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 What happened preceding it: • Egypt is declared a British Protectorate upon WWI’s outbreak • After WWI, nationalists wanted independence from the British • Rebellion broke out in 1919, forcing the British to grant partial independence • British still exerted influence on Egypt + had troops along the Suez Canal
11. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 The 3 Main Causes:
12. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 The 3 Main Causes: 1. a difficult economic situation which exacerbated social tensions
13. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 The 3 Main Causes: 1. a difficult economic situation which exacerbated social tensions 2. Anglo-Egyptian relations which had reached an impasse
14. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 The 3 Main Causes: 1. a difficult economic situation which exacerbated social tensions 2. Anglo-Egyptian relations which had reached an impasse 3. ferment within the Army, the most important pillar of the old regime
15. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation:
16. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports
17. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports • prices are low, demand is low
18. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports • prices are low, demand is low • Without pushing enough cotton, Egypt can’t:
19. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports • prices are low, demand is low • Without pushing enough cotton, Egypt can’t: • pay for it’s primary imports
20. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports • prices are low, demand is low • Without pushing enough cotton, Egypt can’t: • pay for it’s primary imports • get government $$$ from land, export tax
21. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports • prices are low, demand is low • Without pushing enough cotton, Egypt can’t: • pay for it’s primary imports • get government $$$ from land, export tax • buying power of population is at all time low
22. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Difficult Economic Situation: • cotton accounts for 80% of Egyptian exports • prices are low, demand is low • Without pushing enough cotton, Egypt can’t: • pay for it’s primary imports • get government $$$ from land, export tax • buying power of population is at all time low HUGE PROLETARIAT
23. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Anglo-Egyptian Relations:
24. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Anglo-Egyptian Relations: • the anti-imperialism had a pretty clear proletarian inclination
25. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Anglo-Egyptian Relations: • the anti-imperialism had a pretty clear proletarian inclination • the Wafd (Capitalist) party was overwhelmed by the proletariat
26. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Anglo-Egyptian Relations: • the anti-imperialism had a pretty clear proletarian inclination • the Wafd (Capitalist) party was overwhelmed by the proletariat • a bunch of complications lead to ultimate failure of the ruling classes or the Wafd party to negotiate with Britain
27. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is :
28. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is : • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles
29. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is : • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops
30. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is : • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?”
31. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD
32. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD ARMY IS MAD
33. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD ARMY IS MAD RULING CLASS IS HATED
34. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD ARMY IS MAD RULING CLASS IS HATED SPOILER ALERT
35. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD ARMY IS MAD RULING CLASS IS HATED SPOILER ALERT SAID IS:
36. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD ARMY IS MAD RULING CLASS IS HATED SPOILER ALERT SAID IS: FORMER REVOLUTIONARY
37. Egyptian Revolution of 1952 Army is • believed that failure at the war in Palestine was due to corruption in ruling circles • Cairo Fire/Black Saturday only exacerbated anti-government sentiment among troops • “If the government is unable to govern without the Army, why can’t the Army just do it themselves?” PROLETARIAT IS MAD ARMY IS MAD RULING CLASS IS HATED SPOILER ALERT SAID IS: FORMER REVOLUTIONARY LOWER CLASS
38. Instances where the revolution is relevant
39. “You’re busy thinking how to kill, not how to escape, and you’ll be killed, too. Do you imagine you can defeat the whole government, with its troops filling the streets?” (128)
40. “Listen, Said. Things are no longer what they used to be. In the past you were both a thief and my friend, for reasons you well know. Now the situation has changed. If you go back to burglary you’ll be a thief and nothing else" (44)
41. “It was you who gave me the names of people who deserved to be robbed, and it was in theft that I found my glory, my honor. And I was generous to many people, Ilish Sidra among them”
42. Discussion
43. How do you see the Egyptian Revolution being reflected in The Thief and the Dogs?
44. To what extent does Said's class position affect how he feels about those who betrayed him? In other words, does his need for revenge only have personal motives or larger and more world-encompassing motives?
45. What aspects of class and gender roles does Mahfouz emphasize and why does he focus on these particular characteristics?