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Lee Brotherston
July 29, 2017
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Blue Team TLS Hugs
My talk given at the Crypto & Privacy Village at Defcon 25
Lee Brotherston
July 29, 2017
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Transcript
Blue Team TLS Hugs Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
SSL TLS does what now? Lee Brotherston - @synackpse -
#TLSHugs
Renegotiation... Encrypted Data Key Exchange Kittens... Unicorn Tears Pixie Dust
Client Client Hello Server Server Hello Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Current State of the Art Lee Brotherston - @synackpse -
#TLSHugs
- Ignore TLS - Break TLS - Embrace TLS Lee
Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Ignore TLS Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
IDS Rules Protocol ClearText TLS Enabled HTTP(S) 1572 25 IMAP(S)
34 10 SMTP(S) 73 10 Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
permit any > any port 443 Universal Firewall Bypass Port!
Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
ssh -p443 user@myhost (don’t pretend you don’t) Lee Brotherston -
@synackpse - #TLSHugs
So, what then? Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
EndMalVirusPointRansomWhitelistWareProtection Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Blacklists Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Break TLS Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Request Request Response Proxy Server Client TLS Handshake TLS Handshake
Response ClearText Actual Certificate Authority work CA :) Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Break The CA Model …. even more Lee Brotherston -
@synackpse - #TLSHugs
Compromised Appliance Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Compromised Internal CA/Key Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Key Management is Haaarrrddd Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Poor Certificate Validation Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
“Trusted” CA List Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Trust What The Appliance Trusts *cough* WoSign *cough* Lee Brotherston
- @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Certificate [un]Pinning Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Malicious Insider Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Embracing TLS? Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Goals Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Coarse Content Filtering Application Detection Coarse Logging Granular Logging Certificate
Checks Cryptographic Checks Granular Content Filtering In-Page Exploits Malware Detection Data Exfiltration DLP Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
“Perfection is the enemy of good enough” Lee Brotherston -
@synackpse - #TLSHugs
Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Fun with Packet Sniffing Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
TLS Fingerprinting (I hear someone did a talk on that)
…. (it was me) Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Spotting $bad Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
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[semi]Automated fingerprinting Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Pseudo “anomaly based detection” Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Fingerprint Canaries Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
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Incident Response & Attribution(ish) Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Vorführeffekt
OK, Enough Fingerprinting Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Server Responses Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Certificates Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Do You Even IDS, Bro? Lee Brotherston - @synackpse -
#TLSHugs
Inline TLS Shenanigans Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
TLS Handshake Mangling Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Request Request Response Proxy Server Client TLS Handshake TLS Handshake
Response Nope Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Proxy Server Client TLS Request Response Request Response TLS Version
Ciphersuites Hashing Algorithms Hostname (SNI) Curves Server Hello Certificates Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Subtractive only Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
The Compliances Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
A Remaining Problem Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
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A Solution…. Kinda Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
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Coarse Content Filtering Application Detection Coarse Logging Granular Logging Certificate
Checks In-Page Exploits Malware Detection Data Exfiltration DLP How Did we Do? ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✗ …? Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs ✓
One more thing… Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
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Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Host: www.myhost.com User-Agent: MyBrowser/10.4 (Some OS) CoolWebKit/537.36 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml Accept-Encoding:
gzip, deflate, sdch Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 GET /XXXXXXXXXXX HTTP/1.1 227 206 151 95 58 26 Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Conclusion Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Stuff … TLS Fingerprinting: https://github.com/LeeBrotherston/tls-fingerprinting https://blog.squarelemon.com/tls-fingerprinting/ TLS Mangler (soon): https://github.com/LeeBrotherston/<somewhere>
TLS Profiling: https://gist.github.com/wxsBSD/6d5e777afc31b3cf46d0 https://gist.github.com/wxsBSD/0c6584913bcc5e6da31b Slide Deck: https://speakerdeck.com/leebrotherston/ The Twitters (me): @synackpse Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs
Any Questions? Lee Brotherston - @synackpse - #TLSHugs