DR2023 Sophie Goodman & Bec Purser - Bin Chickens, Beavers and Dingos - Re-situating Ethnography Beyond Humans

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a a e e ac he d, ea g PhD a d g h
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b e a c. A d e ac a h ha bea e a d b e ca h
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e he e a e ac a a f h ab ha b ec a
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eac a e e a a d c e h he ch a ha a ead
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e, h a -ce ed. B ha f e h gh ab he b a d
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he e, a d he I d ge C ba , he Ta . S h e g a a e
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e h g a h beca e d c ec ed f acade c d c e f
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e c b e a ed ced a -h e 1-h e e .
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a bee hea f e ced b We e c e a d a e de c be
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f e d h h a c h e he e f e f S h Af ca.
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f c ea e be g a ed he a df , a , e e a d a a , a d
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he e e a f a g a d - g be g . N c ea e e
ha a he e ec a a e e . S a , he Ma e e, he
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e h d a a a f ach e g he a e ega a d g a a h a .
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de a d, e a , a d a e ed c g e b ec a e . The
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c a a a e e , h d a e he cha ge he e e
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h g h c e. A d he a c a a , h ch e' e a ead
ed h a he e e h c.
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eca , e' e a g g ha e h g a h - ha he e h g a h ha e
a e fa a h e ea ch da ha bec e d c ec ed f
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h a h a be g he h e. E h g a h a ed a a
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e c ed a e, h a -ce ed. Th f f e h g a h
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he I d ge ce a d e ec e ab he c ea e ? S ch a
he a e aced he edge f a . Th g bac ea e
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de a e he Ea h' a . We' e g he e a e a ed
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h ee-d e a , a d ha ' h e e he dea f F ca ' Pe d .
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a e h gh f e he ec e ? Wha d ec de g
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ha c e c d e de e f e had a e h a -ce ed
a ach e h g a h c e ea ch? I a d ce a b a ch
f e h g a h ha e c e b ace he e f e h g a h e' e
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c ec a d e a g e e be ee -h a ec e ,
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e a d a a ge , a d - g h g ch a b ,
ach e , a f c a e ge ce, da a e .
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he f e d h c a ec e h ac a a a e e e ?
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a c a h a e dee fa e ? S d b - - b
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c ea e -h a f f a f c a e ge ce? O gh a f
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de c f he h .
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c ca e h a hee e a f h a -a ed
de f c ca . She a a f h f he a e a d h
he e a , h he hee h g be e ha he a f
a , a d h he eg a e a f be g ge he h he . Tha he
e d ffe e , ee d ffe e , a d e a c e e d ffe e e
ca e, a d ha ' he f d d ffe e a f be g he d
ha he' e e a c a ed . The e' a Sa ah Wha e' ,
h ch c e he be ee a e a d c e, a e e e ed
c e f c a d e e a a d a d c e . A d, a ,
a he e a e ha I a ed ca a Th a D e a d
Deb ah B d R e, h ha e e ed a c , ba ed he ch
f e g a d f g f e , a d ha ac a ace S d e .
S , h gh be a g d e e h e f
e h g a h ? F , h e h g a h , e ha e bee ac edg g
he g e ade a g e h g a h c e c a e g , b
a deba g a def f ea . I acade c c c e ,
a h g T I g d ha a g ed e h g a h ha bee a e e
a d ha b e e f h ca g .
I ' bee de c bed a a e f e e , ed a a
b e , b a e a a e f he a e ea ch a d
da a-c ec e h d ha e h g a h ca e . I d ,
e h g a h c fe e ce , ch a E c, c e he e de c
c e c a e g def e e h g a h a be g e ab e
acce ea e e ea a .
The e ee g c e c a e h g a he e ha a a
ef a g b e eed e be d .
S , h de g , he e' c ea g ac edge e e
be d h a -ce ed e . S e f he e a ache d a ead be
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e e a de g , a d de g g h c . Ba ca , ee ha
e' e e a a e f he b e . H e e , e' e g d . He e'
e f a G g e ea ch f he h a -ce ed. Th " e ha
h a -ce ed". Whe d e G g e e e e e ? Th
e h g a h . A d h e h g a h ... Oh, . S ! Oh, . S ,
g . Tha e h g a h c a ed - ec e e h g a h . Tha '
- ec e e h g a h ed, gh d he b he e. S ,
a h gh he e' e e e h g a h a d ' f e ed c e ed, e
ha edge a d ea che f - ec e e h g a h
d e ' e e eg e .
Ye . S e h g d ffe e g g d he e! S , h gh e
a e a d d g he e f e h g a h ha c a e
d ffe e be g a d edge? A d e'd e gge a fe ac ca
e . F , c ea e he edge f f da f a h g
a d e h g a h ha e e a ea e e a d he ea - e e
b e e h g a h , a d def f e h g a h a e e - .
Sec d , ada c e a d fa a e e d he ec e
e b ade - ec e a ache . A d he h d e gh be
he e e d f c de a f he ec e he -h a
h g , ch a b , AI, a d a a ed b ec .
S , e f h a c a e a , b g a , a f
a dde e h g a h d e ' e a -h e e e
a e.
S , e h e ha h a da c b e e a
d c ab h a e h g a h . Tha f e g ha e
h g, f c g d he abb h e h . A d f h ha
a ed a dea f , e d e hea f , a e' e a
e f ea g a d - ea g . A d he e a e a c e f h g
e' e ead, a e a g he f he , a e ead g

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ha gh e a . A d a , a b ch f efe e ce . A d a a b g
h - he g a h c he e a e f fab h e b . S ,
L a M a , h e g ac e e ha . Tha . (APPLAUSE)
STEVE BATY: Tha . J ha g a he S ac cha e , he e
a e ' e h gh he e. B d e e he e ha e e ? A d,
f , a e ha d a d I b g he c e . A d f , he
I a e he a e e .
BEC PURSER: We had e ed c ed e a e .
STEVE BATY: Oh, d d ?
BEC PURSER: Yeah, e d d.
STEVE BATY: W . Y ' e ea e ed. D a a
e ?
BEC PURSER: S eb d d ca he fac ha a h g
f e , e, "a h " f h a , " g " he d f. I ac a ea
f c a , a he e e a f , ' ece a
"h a ".
STEVE BATY: I a c b , d g he a , I a c b he dea
ha a f - a f cha e ge ha e face da a e he e f
h a e a a g he e e f a e, e f h e e
. We e , , a e a d he e e a e h g
e a a e f h a a d h a ac . Th fee e a a f
ec ec g a d e a g e h g a h b a a f he

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a a d, a d h e h ha e ?
SOPHIE GOODMAN: I ea , I ag ee. B , , he e ?
STEVE BATY: Uh... Yeah, d ag ee?
BEC PURSER: Ye , ab e .
STEVE BATY: A d ha d a ha ?
BEC PURSER: We , I g e S h e e ed a he e d ha h a
ce f e- ea g. We' e g h ace he e e ha e
bee e a a ed f a a a d a e a d , e, - g c ea e .
S , he dea ha he a e a e a a d ha e a e a a f a e
ge he cha ge a f a ha e, f ea e b ace ha a
a h gh .
STEVE BATY: I h h ca e ca ed " he e gh e e ", ha
ce f e a a g e e . A d h d gh , a ha e bee
e e gh e g.
SOPHIE GOODMAN: Yeah, I' g h beca e I' c a
a ch g de a d ec e a d a ha f ff, a d eb d ...
B I ca ' ge he efe e ce f gh , b a e ac
ha - ba ca The E gh e e bab h d ' ha e bee ca ed
ha .
BEC PURSER: I d ' h he Da Age efe ed he e e a ch.

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STEVE BATY: N , , ha ' e. Tha ' e e. Yeah?
>> He . Tha f he e e a . I had a e , h ch
ab h d g ab e e g h ga a ?
L e, h d ch f ha ? Ha e b e a ? H d e
?
BEC PURSER: I' he e da a a a e c e , a a e e e a e
f a g e e ga a . We a e ca e a e de a d I a
a e a e dea h b, I' .
>> H ece ed, a , e, e a ?
SOPHIE GOODMAN: We , d g h a da a d e a g f
ac a ba ca f ced Bec a d I ac a a g e h gh . A d,
I ea , e d ' e ab he abb h e ha e g d . A d,
, h ha bee a c e f ea f a g ab h f ff
a d g e e e...
BEC PURSER: A ab e...
SOPHIE GOODMAN: Yeah, ha ' gh . B ge g c ea . L e, ha
ac a he e , a d he a he e gh e g h ? S , ffe
a b e . S , e f, af e da , e f h g ha
a a bee , ea e d ' a e e e e h g a h a a e e .
P ea e d ' e e a ab e h g a h a ab ea e e
ea a , ? A d ha ' beca e ' e f e be g ed
c a e h g e a e e ea ch, ? H e e , I'
a g ea h ab , , , b g f a c e

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ec - I ea , e h g e he c de a f ec e a d
e ghb h d . I ea , ha ' ac a e a - ha ' ch a
fa -fe ched . I a h f c a ha a bee d g a f
he ESG ace, ha ' a ea a a f , I h , f ha a
e . I h c a e , h d g e , I h ha ' ea ce
a e . S , I d h ha h e a e he e, b ea ha
ce f - ea g e f he ff ha a ead g a ed, ha
I h e' e g - b d g h da , a d e' e e ee hea
f e e, da a d he b ea , e ce e a - h ha
ea e ab ed a d ge c e ha eed e, be
ab e b g bac e , , da -b d g f he
A e ca bea e .
BEC PURSER: I h ' a - , ' ece a g g a fa
a c d g -h a e a , h ch d be g ea f d d, b
' a ab c d g he a a f de g a d a a f
ce e . S , I a age a ea f e ce de g e , a f h h
c e f a d a de g bac g d, a d I f e e he a
' he de g c e f e ea ch. Y d ' eed g bac f
c e c ea e e h g e e g e e. The e ca be a
a a g h c ge , , ea - he e dea a d
a a h ha g ha e d e e e ece f he he a .
SOPHIE GOODMAN: J e a h g ha , ac a , beca e I' e
e e be ed ha I d d ge a e a a De g F e W h
h a c eag e f e a c e f ea ag , he e I a he
a , a d a a e e! S , I' e, "T ead f e,
ea e." S , I ea , I' g , I' hea g a e b f a he e
a d, f, a , ' b ha I' hea g beca e I a

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. I h e eed a ge g a b c ea e h h f h g,
be h e d ffe e e ec e , a d h e e a h a e e b g g
?
STEVE BATY: Tha , b h, e ch. Tha a g ea . Tha .
(APPLAUSE)
The e' a e e g cha e ge I h e face a e de g
d ffe e h g . I h ha ' e, a ea he ha e d a he
d , a d I he e a e a b ch f he e h a e ac e
ed he de g f h g a he ha he e ea ch f h g . A
e de g e h g , he a e f de a d g eed cha ge
a e . Aga ha gh ee a b h g a b he a
ge he ac ca e f ha d e ac a ea de a d
e h g e a a e ha d e ac a ea de a d
a a a a f a c e ha d e ea de a d
e a a ade? A d de g h e h g a b ec f de g ,
a a e e c e, I had a c e a a fe ea bac h a c a f a
de g e a d e e e a g ab h f h f he f
h g e ca de g a d he ca e f a d a de g
bac g d. The e ec e a e ch a d he de g f
h g . The a ed e he e e "Whe be a f ed,
e f he f b e ha de g g?" I ga e he e a e
f "Whe a c de d a de g e , I be
a f ed". Whe he Fede a B dge a de g ed b ec a he ha a
ca b ec b a de g ed b ec , he g h gh a ce ha
e he f h g ha e d d de g a e ce, a
a ca , a ece f ech g ha e e b e g h gh ha
a e ce a e h e ca ch ce a e h e f d g
ch ce a d ha a e he f h g ha e f d, he I a

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DR2023 Sophie Goodman & Bec Purser - Bin Chickens, Beavers and Dingos - Re-situating Ethnography Beyond Humans

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