DR2023 Sophie Goodman & Bec Purser - Bin Chickens, Beavers and Dingos - Re-situating Ethnography Beyond Humans

Anthropology’s, and by extension Ethnography’s remit is frequently defined as asking the question, 'what does it mean to be human'? But, what if humans were not at the centre of what we do? Solving global issues and promoting systemic change, means changing not just the inputs but also our point of view.

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3. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 3 a d aga a e e e e a . B c ec g h a d a d c a e he e, a ' ee a . S , a b ab . S , S h e a d I a e e e h a e e ea a ed. We e f abb h e a d e d ' he a g h . We ed h a ge he a a g d e c e f e e e h gh ha ha e bee b bb g a d head f a e h e a d ha e had bee g e , a d a a g d e c e a e Me b e - e h g ha e he f ha d e ce e he a de c. A e h e ha I ha e a e f h . I ' a de a d he e c e f bef e ca a ab he e ' e g g. S , e ' d e Ma a d Be d. S , a h g a e ab hed a a ec g ed f e d f d he 1840 A e ca a d E e. The e f e a e e e ed b F e ch a a e ed A a a 1800 a d 1803, a d a e beca e a c f e h g . The R a A h g ca S c e N e A d Q e e O A h g e f he f a e a e d e , b hed ed f 1874 1951. A d he US, LH M ga ' C c a a ed a he S h a . He Sch c af a e f he f A e ca b h a e h g a h c e f a . The S h a a a b g e f a h g ca e ea ch, a g 1846, a d a e he B ea f E h g bega 1879 ga he f a ab he I d ge e e f N h A e ca. F a B a , a Ge a e ea che , d d ch f he e h g a h he a e 1800 a d he a e f he f a he c e f c e h d f a h g , e ha g he e ea ch f bef e ge e a g a he e h d. Pa c a b e a ha g bee c de ed he d a f a h g . I g ace bac Ma ' f e d h he T b a d I a de . He a b K a P h a e a d d ed
4. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 3 a a e e ac he d, ea g PhD a d g h e f he be a h g f he e a d f a e . Whe he a e ed Pa a Ne G ea a h e ea ch, W d Wa I b e . A d be g P h-b a d c ec A a, he a ab e e h e h fac g e . I ead, he a g a ed he a he e he a a d c e h e ea ch. I a a h e ha he beca e a f ced g a . He a e a e e he a ea a d a e, a d a b c f ed. He a he e beca e he a f ced be he e b he a h e f he e. A d a afe, h be e e , e h e, he ef e he bega he ad f e e a c a e h g a h . A d ' e e g e ha , a ch a c c de ce f g, a a , a d ge ca ed he de e e f a f e d f ac ce ha e ca c ed da h he ha f e e h d , h he de e e f e d c a d e ce . B ha ? E h g a h , a e h g a h , e h g a h c? A e he e a e f he a e h g ? A e he d ffe e e ? Le ' ge . A e h d. Th he e ha e a e fa a h. E h g a h a a e h d. A a a e e f e ea ch ha e d g a d d c e g c a a d c a he e a ea - fe e g . E h g a h f c ed b e g a d de a d g h a beha a d e ac h he a a a ea. Re ea che c d c g a e h g a h c d e d e h a c a , c e, a d ga gh c a e ac , c ec da a h gh a c a b e a , face- -face e e , e ce e a. I f e a ed ab a -h e e e , b he a ce -c e f he e e , he ce , he e a h ha ' be g d ed. Th he a f e h g a h ha ha bee c e c a ed, a d e f d
5. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 40 b e a c. A d e ac a h ha bea e a d b e ca h he a f a d. B e' ge he e a e. A a d a g e. A e h g a h f he eade h gh a a a e, e e e, f e g e de a a d e g ech e . S e e ca ed h c de c , e de a ed de c f he c e , beha , a d ffe e ce , c e a d ac ce . The e a e I ha e he e A E h g a h Of F ag a ce. Th e h g a h c e e e he ea g f e f e he I a c d, b e e g he e h ch ha e bec e a c a ed h ec f c f ag a ce , he a h , D ah J g, a e d ce he eade he h a d c e f I a a d he he edge f Ye e . E g c a e cha ge a d e e h gh he ea g f f ag a ce. Th e e a e f "a e h g a h " b d e ca e he e e ce f he b ec . A d he he e "e h g a h c" ca be ed de c be a ac ce ha e b f h , c d g f a g, h g a h , he f f c a e e e a . S h e a d I a e b h d e gh e e be e h g a h c f be g a ed ch . The e a e h ca d c e a - e f a e , h b We e f a e , ab -We e c e . S e e ca be e h g a h c h be g c e ed b a h g h be g he ac ce f a h g . B ha ac a c e a f d ffe e h g , I a f a e a d a , f a , a e f g, a e h d, a d a ad ec e, he ha a e d c f he f f e ea ch ac ce ha e a ha e de g e ea ch? The e a e a def ha a e e h g e h g a h c a e h g a h ha a e be g a g ed a d d c ed b acade c a e he d, a d I'
6. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 41 e he e a e ac a a f h ab ha b ec a e , a d e d e hea he . E h g a h a a e ea ch ac ce a b f a b e b d, b f h a , f he e f da , e' e g a f c he e h g a be g d c f e h g a h . The f e be g he f e f he b ec , he e a e ha g a he d h gh he b ec ' e e a d f he f e . The e de c e - ' ch de a a d e e a . I e - f c e he ed e e e ce f he d d a a d f he c . The a a d c e, h ch ea e d ' ha eed be ha be bef e e a he e ea ch. I f c e b c ea g, e e he b a d ea g f he ac a d he ch ce ha he b ec a e. A d ha a e c e e a - ea g ha a e b e a a d f d g f he e ha e e e , a d he e ha he e ac h, a d he b ec a e. A h g ' e ha f e e bee def ed a a g he e , "Wha d e ea be h a ?" B ha f h a a e ' he ce e f ha e d ? Wha f a h g a a f e d c de ed a d d ed a ec e , h a ? C d e c e a e he e f be g h a h c e f c h a -ce ed e ? Wha f e ha , ca , a h g a e h a - ? We a e b e f he be fe e a he c e e a h ch e f d e e , a a ec e e e a g de a d e e e f c b ed f e. We eed de a d a d add e he cha e ge f h a b f h e e e a g de. A d h ea e eed b ade he e f a h g be d c e a ca f h a -ce ed edge, e h d , a d f a g, ha e a e ed da . B ha ' ac a a a bee ha a . We h e eed
7. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 42 eac a e e a a d c e h he ch a ha a ead e a f d c e. N -h a e h g a h a ac a e c he f e d he h , b ha bee f g e . The A e ca Bea e a d H W , he 1868 a ca b Le He M ga , a e ce e e a e f a a ab e e h g a h c e ea ch a he ec e . Sad , h b ca - ca be f d a eb e f f g e b - f g e b .c - b I d ec e d g g f d . H e ha e cha ged! B I a a a ab b e . The e b d a e e ed a g d a d ca ed b ch c e . Ib e e e c ee S d e he 1950 . The a a hab a he e a d he M a -Da g Ba , ca ed he e f A a a. The c c f ga f a c e he M a -Da g Ba d g he d-20 h ce ha c b ed a c ea e he b e ha e ee ba a ea , a he e e f ced ea ch f e hab a a d e f d ce . We c d ee h a f a a a g f e c ec ed e , b I h e h d a ee a a ac f e e ce. Ib e - a d I a f fac ab b e ! - c e a d c ca e ad , a c e e e ec e f he . The f g he ab , ca g he e , a d e e he , a d he a h he de a e e g a c e he h e. A d e c -d e g c e , he a - ec ed b ac b ha ea ed he affec a e a e f fa e a "fa e ' f e d". Th b d ha ha b ac fea he a d a - e age a d ec a d h a , efe he e ace f a a fe a d feed h de f g a h e a d c , h ch ea a d ag e A a a c . We ha e a e ac g he e e b he e f he e "b ch c e " a d g he a a e a d a c a e f e c ec ed e a a ec e . E e fa e ' f e d, a h gh
8. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 43 e, h a -ce ed. B ha f e h gh ab he b a d he ec e f a -h a -ce ed f e ? H gh e cha ge he a e a e he , ee he , beha e he ? L e he f g e A e ca bea e , a d de a e h a -ce ed e . W h c c h gh e, c d e , be e a ge , ha e e ded be c e a d ba a ea beca e b e e ha e ha e c ea ed f ec ea e he a e h e e fec , h ch c ff a d c face . B d e e a a e ce e d ca f he e e . B ha ab h e ha ca ' ada ? A a a he f e f e c f a a a d a ec e , a d he 10 f e da ge ed h ea e ed ec e . The e be c e f he A a a S a e f he E e Re 2021. C a e cha ge ac e e c ea e, e e g c ea e h ea h, a d a e ed a . Z c d ea e , c d g COVID-19, a e ca ed b de g g f he e fa e f a a h c e a d g e ce ed h a eed f . B e ' ge bac e h g a h a d ac ce. I a e fa d he abb h e! I a d ce a he ha a de e ed b a e h g a he a d bec e a a e a ' he f he dea e ha e da . T a c a a he ce f a g f e c e a he , g b h he ac f a c e, he g f a e c e. B a ca e he dea f he c ea f e c a he e a, e -c a a . Th he a de e ed b Fe a d O h e a , The C ba C e , h ch ea ed bacc a d ga - b h ag c a c d e - a c a cha ac e h h , a d ed he e e he e ac a d e e a ed e f he S a h c e , he Af ca a e he b gh h he
9. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 44 he e, a d he I d ge C ba , he Ta . S h e g a a e h gh h ac . SOPHIE GOODMAN: S , e h g a h ee g h gh a c c e f be g d c e ed a d ed c e ed b ga a f e e h g f a eg a ace c e. F he '80 , he he '90 , he he 2000 , a h gh a c ea ch Ha a d B e Re e gge ha a be bec g e f e e , h a a c e e e e f e ea ce he ea 2000 . H e e , each e ha bee a f c a a e ea ch e h d. A Bec ed ea e , e h g a h e ha a e h d, ' a a ad ec e, a , a d a e f g. U g a c a he - ha Bec d ced - e ca a a e ha a , ha a ga ed, a d c ea ed, a he d f e h g a h e ac ed h he d f ga a a d b e a d ce a e beca e def ed a ha ea be h a . S , ha d d e e? B f c g a a e ea ch e h d, e h g a h beca e d c ec ed f acade c d c e f a h g , g he e ca f da , a d h f c h a e e a h h, a d c f, he ec e . Wha d d e ga ? E h g a h a ed h a -ce ed de g ha g e ca e a d f e ce, a ea a he ab e ha ha bee ch gh af e . We' e a bee a f b d g e a h f he a d de e g bea f de g ed d c , e ce , a d e e e ce . Ye , e' e c ea ed a e f e h g a h ha a e ed ced e h g a h a e h d. J e f e ea che e a a e ec . I e ha c e , e ec e- a g, a d e c b e a ed ced a -h e 1-h e e . We' e e e a bac ed e e a c e .
10. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 45 BEC PURSER: S , h gh e e a e? O h a -ce ed e ha a bee hea f e ced b We e c e a d a e de c be e a ed h e g ha e a a e h a a d a a - a g age, he e f , he ab de a d dea h c c e . O ce aga , f c g ha a e h a . B d h ha e a e a d a , c c a ca , e e ha he ed e . S , f e a e e a e, he e h d e f cha ge? F , he d e , e ec a d c e a f a g. The ha e c ed de e h ac ce. M Oc Teache e a f he ac ce a d c e f e h g a h , a d I h gh ec e d h f f ha e ' ee . A f a e f ge a a f e d h h a c h e he e f e f S h Af ca. Lea g ab h a a ' d, a d be g a gh . I ' a e e a f f e d h a d a e eache . We ca I d ge a f g. D N a Sheeha , a W ad a a d acade c ec a g I d ge e ea ch e h d a d e ec f de g , h ha e e ed a UX A a a he a , de c be h a , e a he c ea e , a d g h g h I d ge h h ha e edge, de a ed b he de , he beha , a d he ac h he ef ec e . Sheeha de g I d ge edge a a a he c e e g , he e edge a ed a d de a ed h gh e f a ce, age , e , e ha ge he , a g f f ha ed h a a d -h a e e e ce ha c ec a g, ca g, e a ed e e. I h , he a de a e ha he a e a f a e a a h e. Acc d g ch a he a ea, he h e- e e h I d ge edge e e ge f he D ea g, a h gh e a d ffe f a a , a ha e c cha ac e c . The ac
11. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 46 f c ea e be g a ed he a df , a , e e a d a a , a d d g a gh he e e ca e f ha he ha e c ea ed. The c ea e e e e de e de , e e a ed, a d e - e b e. The Ya a e e f he N he Te ee a a a e g a he a e a e a each he , be g f a d ffe e ha e. The e a e a a ha e he e a e a d he d ffe e ce be ee a d d g e he a ha e a e f ed h ca . I R e, he e e a f a g a d - g be g . N c ea e e ha a he e ec a a e e . S a , he Ma e e, he P e a I d ge e e f Ne Zea a d, ha e bee ca a g g f e ha 160 ea ec he e . I 2017, a g a ed e h d a a a f ach e g he a e ega a d g a a h a . Th de a e he e e h ch I d ge edge e e he e a a h e a d c de a a a d c e a e a ac . A d ffe a a ea de-ce e h a f de g a d e e e ce . We ca a e b ace he . S , c a he , a h g ca he , efe he a g e , h he e , a d h gh e e e a d e a a f h h a c e e e e e a e c ed, h he c e be f ed, h he cha ge, h he de e e e, a d h he d a ea . The e a e a a ca f de a d, e a , a d a e ed c g e b ec a e . The h d cha ge he a e a e , he h d ac he de g e e ea ch, a d he a ha e a a e f d g . The e a e a fe e a e . The e' d ff , h ch a , "H d h g e ac e a d ace " F c a , h ch , "Wha he e f a h g a c e?" E h c e ce - h d e e e ce e a d c a f he d he e ? I e ac - h d e e a c e ac he he a e a e ' a a f he c . I e e - f
12. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 4 c a a a e e , h d a e he cha ge he e e h e e ? S c a - h ch he de g g c ha c ec h g h c e. A d he a c a a , h ch e' e a ead ed h a he e e h c. SOPHIE GOODMAN: S , ha ' he f e f e h g a h , he ? F , eca , e' e a g g ha e h g a h - ha he e h g a h ha e a e fa a h e ea ch da ha bec e d c ec ed f f da . I ' f e e e ed a a e f a a e e e h a h a be g he h e. E h g a h a ed a a h a -ce ed de g e h d ha bee a def ed a d, a e c ed a e, h a -ce ed. Th f f e h g a h f c ed a g e ec e , de e he fac ha e e e ce , e be g a d a a e e a g ed h he -h a be g . I ' h e e a g he e ha he a e h f e h g a h a d HCD ha bee e cce f . HCD ha g e bea f de g ed d c , e ce , a d e e e ce , ch a ff ce ace b f he aff ha a e hab g he a d g he e, ea e d g a e e e ce f c e acce g e e e ce , e e acce b f d c a d de ce , ba g a a d f a c a e ce f c e ha a e e a d e e, b ' a h a -f c ed. Whe e a e h e ch d e f a ec a a d a e f he A e ca bea e ? O he I d ge ce a d e ec e ab he c ea e ? S ch a he a e aced he edge f a . Th g bac ea e efe e ce f a c a a he , ha , ga ed, a d c ea ed he e h g a h a d ga a c e ge he , ha f e e e e ef h ce f he e f e h g a h ha e a e c ea g? N , a b ef b e e a de e he e ha ha c e a c e f F ca ' Pe d , h ch a ed f 1851
13. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 4 de a e he Ea h' a . We' e g he e a e a ed h ha he def a d ac ce f e h g a h had g e fa e d ec , a d ch e a e d , gh eed a g bac . H e e , e fe h a ge g ca gh fa a a e f ea , f e We e - e h g, a e d e a e ea he e e . We a ed a e a h ha a e ea , e h ee-d e a , a d ha ' h e e he dea f F ca ' Pe d . Wha f e c d g e he dea f a e a h f a 3-D e d f e h g a h ? Whe e c d e be? H ca e b g he a e h gh f e he ec e ? Wha d ec de g a d he e ca a g be? Wh d a c a be? A d ha c e c d e de e f e had a e h a -ce ed a ach e h g a h c e ea ch? I a d ce a b a ch f e h g a h ha e c e b ace he e f e h g a h e' e a g ab - ec e e h g a h . I a f d ced 2010 a ec a ed f he a C a A h g . I a he , ec e e h g a h a e e he e a d f e f he ha h a , h e e e a e ca gh - . Wh e e e a e ca gh c e e a h h a e , c e . The e a e def he e ha e ab a e f he , b he e a e ha d e a a ge f ec e he ha h a , ha ac edge he e a g e e , e c ec ed e , a d e a h h he ec e ha h a . I d e ' a e h a e ce a . I add e e h ec e affec a d a e affec ed b c , ec c , a d c e. A d b d g , b g he be ef f e a d g de a d g f he d a d f e e a d he d a e a d e d a h a a d f e We e a f g a d h g. B e ca a h h g a e f he -h a
14. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 4 c ec a d e a g e e be ee -h a ec e , ch a a a , a a d bac e a, b a a a a d ca e ch a e a d a a ge , a d - g h g ch a b , ach e , a f c a e ge ce, da a e . S , ha gh h f f e h g a h c e ea ch e? C d e de e e a f a e a g de h a e ? G g he f e d h c a ec e h ac a a a e e e ? Ha e a c e h a h ea e ed f g ec e ? C d c e ea ch h a c a h a e dee fa e ? S d b - - b a g h - - a e e e ac ? U e gh a he ec e c ea e -h a f f a f c a e ge ce? O gh a f be ed ca g he b c ab ec e ba ed e h g a h c e ea ch? F a ce, ha bee b h a a he f e c ach g ea he h e. We , e f h bab d a b ea c. He e a e e ac a e a e . The A a -C e I e ac Lab he UK ha c d c ed a c a h h a a ce d g de g d ace a d ech g e f a d g' f e . A d he e a e e ea g ea e ce e ab h he d d ha , c d g de a d de c f he h . The e' A e Ga a ' ec ha d he f e f Me hee b eed g Ne Zea a d he face f h g e c a e cha ge a d a a e fa e c ce . He c a e e h g a h a d ec a e f c , a d ha e e c a ed a a be g acce ed a a f he M e f A ed A c ec V e a. She a ab a e e e ce f e e h he d he g h a f c f hee . A a e a a , he he hee a e ca , he he' afe h e e . She e he a he c ca e h he ea a d a b d e e , he e e , a d ha cce f
15. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 50 c ca e h a hee e a f h a -a ed de f c ca . She a a f h f he a e a d h he e a , h he hee h g be e ha he a f a , a d h he eg a e a f be g ge he h he . Tha he e d ffe e , ee d ffe e , a d e a c e e d ffe e e ca e, a d ha ' he f d d ffe e a f be g he d ha he' e e a c a ed . The e' a Sa ah Wha e' , h ch c e he be ee a e a d c e, a e e e ed c e f c a d e e a a d a d c e . A d, a , a he e a e ha I a ed ca a Th a D e a d Deb ah B d R e, h ha e e ed a c , ba ed he ch f e g a d f g f e , a d ha ac a ace S d e . S , h gh be a g d e e h e f e h g a h ? F , h e h g a h , e ha e bee ac edg g he g e ade a g e h g a h c e c a e g , b a deba g a def f ea . I acade c c c e , a h g T I g d ha a g ed e h g a h ha bee a e e a d ha b e e f h ca g . I ' bee de c bed a a e f e e , ed a a b e , b a e a a e f he a e ea ch a d da a-c ec e h d ha e h g a h ca e . I d , e h g a h c fe e ce , ch a E c, c e he e de c c e c a e g def e e h g a h a be g e ab e acce ea e e ea a . The e ee g c e c a e h g a he e ha a a ef a g b e eed e be d . S , h de g , he e' c ea g ac edge e e be d h a -ce ed e . S e f he e a ache d a ead be fa a a e dee he e da , ch a -h a -ce ed de g ,
16. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 51 e e a de g , a d de g g h c . Ba ca , ee ha e' e e a a e f he b e . H e e , e' e g d . He e' e f a G g e ea ch f he h a -ce ed. Th " e ha h a -ce ed". Whe d e G g e e e e e ? Th e h g a h . A d h e h g a h ... Oh, . S ! Oh, . S , g . Tha e h g a h c a ed - ec e e h g a h . Tha ' - ec e e h g a h ed, gh d he b he e. S , a h gh he e' e e e h g a h a d ' f e ed c e ed, e ha edge a d ea che f - ec e e h g a h d e ' e e eg e . Ye . S e h g d ffe e g g d he e! S , h gh e a e a d d g he e f e h g a h ha c a e d ffe e be g a d edge? A d e'd e gge a fe ac ca e . F , c ea e he edge f f da f a h g a d e h g a h ha e e a ea e e a d he ea - e e b e e h g a h , a d def f e h g a h a e e - . Sec d , ada c e a d fa a e e d he ec e e b ade - ec e a ache . A d he h d e gh be he e e d f c de a f he ec e he -h a h g , ch a b , AI, a d a a ed b ec . S , e f h a c a e a , b g a , a f a dde e h g a h d e ' e a -h e e e a e. S , e h e ha h a da c b e e a d c ab h a e h g a h . Tha f e g ha e h g, f c g d he abb h e h . A d f h ha a ed a dea f , e d e hea f , a e' e a e f ea g a d - ea g . A d he e a e a c e f h g e' e ead, a e a g he f he , a e ead g
17. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 52 ha gh e a . A d a , a b ch f efe e ce . A d a a b g h - he g a h c he e a e f fab h e b . S , L a M a , h e g ac e e ha . Tha . (APPLAUSE) STEVE BATY: Tha . J ha g a he S ac cha e , he e a e ' e h gh he e. B d e e he e ha e e ? A d, f , a e ha d a d I b g he c e . A d f , he I a e he a e e . BEC PURSER: We had e ed c ed e a e . STEVE BATY: Oh, d d ? BEC PURSER: Yeah, e d d. STEVE BATY: W . Y ' e ea e ed. D a a e ? BEC PURSER: S eb d d ca he fac ha a h g f e , e, "a h " f h a , " g " he d f. I ac a ea f c a , a he e e a f , ' ece a "h a ". STEVE BATY: I a c b , d g he a , I a c b he dea ha a f - a f cha e ge ha e face da a e he e f h a e a a g he e e f a e, e f h e e . We e , , a e a d he e e a e h g e a a e f h a a d h a ac . Th fee e a a f ec ec g a d e a g e h g a h b a a f he
18. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 53 a a d, a d h e h ha e ? SOPHIE GOODMAN: I ea , I ag ee. B , , he e ? STEVE BATY: Uh... Yeah, d ag ee? BEC PURSER: Ye , ab e . STEVE BATY: A d ha d a ha ? BEC PURSER: We , I g e S h e e ed a he e d ha h a ce f e- ea g. We' e g h ace he e e ha e bee e a a ed f a a a d a e a d , e, - g c ea e . S , he dea ha he a e a e a a d ha e a e a a f a e ge he cha ge a f a ha e, f ea e b ace ha a a h gh . STEVE BATY: I h h ca e ca ed " he e gh e e ", ha ce f e a a g e e . A d h d gh , a ha e bee e e gh e g. SOPHIE GOODMAN: Yeah, I' g h beca e I' c a a ch g de a d ec e a d a ha f ff, a d eb d ... B I ca ' ge he efe e ce f gh , b a e ac ha - ba ca The E gh e e bab h d ' ha e bee ca ed ha . BEC PURSER: I d ' h he Da Age efe ed he e e a ch.
19. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 54 STEVE BATY: N , , ha ' e. Tha ' e e. Yeah? >> He . Tha f he e e a . I had a e , h ch ab h d g ab e e g h ga a ? L e, h d ch f ha ? Ha e b e a ? H d e ? BEC PURSER: I' he e da a a a e c e , a a e e e a e f a g e e ga a . We a e ca e a e de a d I a a e a e dea h b, I' . >> H ece ed, a , e, e a ? SOPHIE GOODMAN: We , d g h a da a d e a g f ac a ba ca f ced Bec a d I ac a a g e h gh . A d, I ea , e d ' e ab he abb h e ha e g d . A d, , h ha bee a c e f ea f a g ab h f ff a d g e e e... BEC PURSER: A ab e... SOPHIE GOODMAN: Yeah, ha ' gh . B ge g c ea . L e, ha ac a he e , a d he a he e gh e g h ? S , ffe a b e . S , e f, af e da , e f h g ha a a bee , ea e d ' a e e e e h g a h a a e e . P ea e d ' e e a ab e h g a h a ab ea e e ea a , ? A d ha ' beca e ' e f e be g ed c a e h g e a e e ea ch, ? H e e , I' a g ea h ab , , , b g f a c e
20. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 55 ec - I ea , e h g e he c de a f ec e a d e ghb h d . I ea , ha ' ac a e a - ha ' ch a fa -fe ched . I a h f c a ha a bee d g a f he ESG ace, ha ' a ea a a f , I h , f ha a e . I h c a e , h d g e , I h ha ' ea ce a e . S , I d h ha h e a e he e, b ea ha ce f - ea g e f he ff ha a ead g a ed, ha I h e' e g - b d g h da , a d e' e e ee hea f e e, da a d he b ea , e ce e a - h ha ea e ab ed a d ge c e ha eed e, be ab e b g bac e , , da -b d g f he A e ca bea e . BEC PURSER: I h ' a - , ' ece a g g a fa a c d g -h a e a , h ch d be g ea f d d, b ' a ab c d g he a a f de g a d a a f ce e . S , I a age a ea f e ce de g e , a f h h c e f a d a de g bac g d, a d I f e e he a ' he de g c e f e ea ch. Y d ' eed g bac f c e c ea e e h g e e g e e. The e ca be a a a g h c ge , , ea - he e dea a d a a h ha g ha e d e e e ece f he he a . SOPHIE GOODMAN: J e a h g ha , ac a , beca e I' e e e be ed ha I d d ge a e a a De g F e W h h a c eag e f e a c e f ea ag , he e I a he a , a d a a e e! S , I' e, "T ead f e, ea e." S , I ea , I' g , I' hea g a e b f a he e a d, f, a , ' b ha I' hea g beca e I a
21. Ca LIVE Ra T a c _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed ed b a he a h a h a . 56 . I h e eed a ge g a b c ea e h h f h g, be h e d ffe e e ec e , a d h e e a h a e e b g g ? STEVE BATY: Tha , b h, e ch. Tha a g ea . Tha . (APPLAUSE) The e' a e e g cha e ge I h e face a e de g d ffe e h g . I h ha ' e, a ea he ha e d a he d , a d I he e a e a b ch f he e h a e ac e ed he de g f h g a he ha he e ea ch f h g . A e de g e h g , he a e f de a d g eed cha ge a e . Aga ha gh ee a b h g a b he a ge he ac ca e f ha d e ac a ea de a d e h g e a a e ha d e ac a ea de a d a a a a f a c e ha d e ea de a d e a a ade? A d de g h e h g a b ec f de g , a a e e c e, I had a c e a a fe ea bac h a c a f a de g e a d e e e a g ab h f h f he f h g e ca de g a d he ca e f a d a de g bac g d. The e ec e a e ch a d he de g f h g . The a ed e he e e "Whe be a f ed, e f he f b e ha de g g?" I ga e he e a e f "Whe a c de d a de g e , I be a f ed". Whe he Fede a B dge a de g ed b ec a he ha a ca b ec b a de g ed b ec , he g h gh a ce ha e he f h g ha e d d de g a e ce, a a ca , a ece f ech g ha e e b e g h gh ha a e ce a e h e ca ch ce a e h e f d g ch ce a d ha a e he f h g ha e f d, he I a