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Cultural transformation towards using AI

Cultural transformation towards using AI

Lecture given at UKIO (June 2023) and also adapted and given to Oxford University Hospitals annual regional meeting (12th July 2023).

Dr Daniel Fascia

July 12, 2023
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  1. Cultural transformation

    towards using AI
    Consultant Musculoskeletal Radiologist


    Regional Clinical Director of Yorkshire Imaging Collaborative


    Chair of the RCR Informatics Committee
    The imaging network perspective


    Dr Daniel Fascia

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  2. AI is very new… in medicine

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  3. New things… need nurture

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  4. Picture this…

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  5. 21:55
    FY1 in medicine undertaking first shift in new
    hospital, started on nights.

    Nurse asks them to check results on an NG tube
    placement from the prior shift to see if they
    can administer medicines down it.
    FY1 with no training,
    - logs on and accesses imaging results

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  6. REPEAT
    Singh, V., Danda, V., Gorniak, R. et al. Assessment of Critical Feeding Tube Malpositions on Radiographs Using Deep Learning. J Digit Imaging 32, 651–655 (2019).

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  7. 22:45
    Asks StR for help because they are tricky x-rays
    and “I’ve had no training”
    Don’t worry… the hospital has AI to assist
    Just look at that.

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  8. REPEAT
    INDETERMINATE INDETERMINATE

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  9. REPEAT
    INDETERMINATE INDETERMINATE
    Not useful. No training. Unsafe

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  10. Meanwhile down in ED…

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  11. 01:28
    Middle grade in Emergency Department attends
    patient with wrist pain after trauma
    Examination and X-ray carried out
    - Department has AI fracture detection
    - Radiology reports take 5-days

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  12. 01:28
    Middle grade in Emergency Department attends
    patient with wrist pain after trauma
    Examination and X-ray carried out
    - Department has AI fracture detection.
    - Radiology reports take 5-days

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  13. 01:28
    Middle grade in Emergency Department attends
    patient with wrist pain after trauma
    Examination and X-ray carried out
    - Department has AI fracture detection.
    - Radiology reports take 5-days
    Crikey! what do I make of this?
    FRACTURE DETECTED
    72% CI
    50% CI
    50% CI
    64% CI
    41% CI

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  14. 01:28
    Middle grade in Emergency Department attends
    patient with wrist pain after trauma
    Examination and X-ray carried out
    - Department has AI fracture detection.
    - Radiology reports take 5-days
    Crikey! what do I make of this?
    Safety net action
    - Tell patient they have multiple hand fractures
    - Advice (Work, activity etc)
    - Put in splint
    - Fracture clinic
    FRACTURE DETECTED
    72% CI
    50% CI
    50% CI
    64% CI
    41% CI

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  15. 5-days later
    MSK Radiology Report
    No bone injury identified.
    If clinical presentation supports scaphoid
    fracture, secondary imaging with MR recommended.

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  16. MRI Scan shows scaphoid fracture
    But no other “multiple hand fractures”

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  17. MRI Scan shows scaphoid fracture
    But no other “multiple hand fractures”
    Roller Coaster Medicine

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  18. MRI Scan shows scaphoid fracture
    But no other “multiple hand fractures”
    Roller Coaster Medicine
    Poor satisfaction


    High litigation

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  19. Failed cultural design
    Common feature in both situations

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  20. How can we avoid this?

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  21. Vendor
    responsibilities
    Adopter

    responsibilities

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  22. Vendor
    responsibilities
    Adopter

    responsibilities
    Perfect AI partnership

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  23. For vendors

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  24. Who is your product for?


    UI design


    Tried, tested, tweaked for user

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  25. Most AI tools are (currently)
    not really for radiologists


    - Keep the radiology simple


    - Clear


    - Fast


    - Actionable


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  26. It’s good to annotate but don’t
    overwhelm


    - Slower to read output


    - Indecision


    - More training needed


    - Scales poorly to small
    screen and tiled interface

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  27. Detail and terminology are OK
    in speci
    f
    ic specialist settings


    - Orthopaedic measurements


    - Angles


    - Common abbreviations from
    clinical practice (OA, RA)

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  28. What good looks like
    AI data display for good clinical adoption

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  29. FRACTURE DETECTED
    👍 Dan.AI
    Very con
    f
    ident
    Area for review
    sID: 987523123


    Time of analysis: 23-04-2023 17:45


    Images analysed: 2
    Report a
    f
    inding
    • Company / product name


    • Clear signalling of normal/
    abnormal


    • Clear labelling of detected
    features


    • Well distilled, minimal statistical
    supporting evidence


    • Vendor study ID


    • Timestamp for the analysis


    • Indication of what was analysed


    • Functionality to report
    discrepancy

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  30. When you deploy AI
    Your vendor should
    • Provide speci
    f
    ic on site training for radiology and clinical power users


    • Identify and overtrain ‘key trainers’


    • Provide supporting materials to support the deployment


    • Paper (yes!)


    • Electronic

    • Be receptive and action discrepancy reports


    • Don’t disenfranchise those who ‘cannot attend’

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  31. For adopters

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  32. 31% of my fracture clinic appointments have no fracture
    Identify a problem to address
    6% of Brain CT overnight has a signi
    f
    icant reporting error
    1

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  33. Identify those affected by the AI solution
    2
    Radiology


    Clinical Specialisms


    IT / RIS / PACS


    Information Governance & Risk


    Hospital Board


    Patients

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  34. Assemble a mini-board of stakeholders
    3
    Radiology


    Clinical Specialisms


    IT / RIS / PACS


    Information Governance & Risk


    Hospital Board


    Patients
    Radiology Lead


    Clinical Lead


    IT / RIS / PACS Representation


    Project Management (liaison to IG etc)


    Executive Sponsor


    Patient Expert Group

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  35. Identify an off the shelf AI solution

    to solve problem
    4
    It is unrealistic for most active clinical care pipeline services

    to develop and deploy their own AI solutions

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  36. Work together with your vendor

    to deploy to clinical sandbox
    5
    Test. Tweak. Train users.

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  37. Launch together
    6
    Vendors physically present supporting each stakeholder group.

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  38. Launch AI together
    Radiology


    Clinical Specialisms


    IT / RIS / PACS


    Information Governance & Risk


    Hospital Board


    Patients
    Empower radiologists and
    radiographers to power use AI


    Support sta
    ff
    in interpreting AI results


    Clear line of post launch support



    Reassurance



    Congratulate for innovation.

    Media opportunities.


    Clear messaging: AI role in their care

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  39. Re-measure your metric
    7
    Did AI help to solve your problem?

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  40. Innovating to get things into clinical use
    Part 2: Kickstarting AI funding

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  41. Yorkshire Imaging AI Seed Fund Accelerator
    • April 2023 - funds derived from NHSE (via Imaging Network)


    • Awarded 6 x seed fund awards of £40,000


    • Member Trusts of our Regional Imaging Network


    • To be used for a
    f
    ixed term ‘one off’ trial of an AI product in clinical use


    • No refunding or further resourcing


    • Not for research use


    • Must carry out in process audit and reporting


    • Demonstrate baseline hypothesis


    • Measure whether AI helped this metric

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  42. Examples

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  43. Can AI fracture detection at “the front door” reduce the burden of

    non-fracture cases
    f
    illing up the fracture clinic?
    31% of fracture clinic attendances

    are false negative
    🚧

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  44. Can AI supported reading of CT head in the overnight setting reduce the rate of
    misinterpreted
    f
    indings as measured by the REALM process
    CT heads reported by trainees overnight
    carry an 6% rate of

    ‘signi
    f
    icant misinterpretation’
    🚧

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  45. By AI 1st reading CXRs and prioritising those with positive
    f
    indings,

    we can reduce the time to MDTM for lung cancer diagnoses
    Backlogs in CXR reporting cause a delay in
    the lung cancer diagnostic pathway
    🚧

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  46. What we are trialling

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  47. Harrogate Leeds Leeds Leeds Mid Yorkshire Bradford
    Radiobotics Qure.ai Radiobotics AIdoc Annalise Annalise
    RBfracture QXR RBfracture CT suite CT Head CXR
    Fracture
    detection
    Chest x-rays
    Fracture
    detection
    CT safety 2nd
    reading
    Triage of normal
    for delayed
    reporting
    Chest x-rays
    Deployed Early Deploying Early Early Deploying

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  48. Challenges so far

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  49. Challenges you may encounter
    • Small amount of funding


    • Needs to cover Trust internal costs


    • IT, RIS, PACS, overtime etc


    • Integration with vendors if required

    (advise DICOM 2nd capture approach for pilot projects)


    • Over-governance of a
    f
    ixed trial


    • Over-contracting of a
    f
    ixed trial


    • Over-processing of a low risk fully funded endeavour


    • Lack of zest for innovation


    • NHS timelines causing failure to demonstrate progress

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  50. Our ambition

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  51. Ambitions for AI in YIC
    • To be a leader in clinical translation of AI products to frontline care


    • To test a wide battery of products and choose the best


    • Deploy the best at a regional scale


    • Use our cloud infrastructure built over many years


    • Bene
    f
    it our 4-Million patient users by careful selection of AI


    • Deliver at population scale for better population health

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  52. Thank you

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