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DR2023 Saloni Mhapseker - Learning to listen, listening to learn

uxaustralia
March 15, 2023

DR2023 Saloni Mhapseker - Learning to listen, listening to learn

Children are often seen but not heard in the design process. How can you look at them more as co-creators than consumers for your product or service? This talk will help you to understand working with child-centred design mindset in startup or company. As a design for children rights advocate Saloni will explain her own framework as she learnt and unlearnt listening to children’s voices and designing with them.

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March 15, 2023
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    ch d-ce ed de g . Ne ha a ca e e ? The h d a
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    S a g h he eed f ch d-ce ed de g . I a ead g h
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    e a e ch d e , a a f f he d c a d
    e ce e a e de g g f he a e ca e ed ec f ca f he eed .
    E e h gh he e ha bee a b g e e c a ed he a b
    ba ca e a e g ha e h e a e e f a b
    e eed ha e e c e a de g ce e f d a
    c de he a d ha e he a ea a he ab e.
    The e a b ch f e he a . I a d ge a f
    ha fe. Th a he ed a h ch I ea e a d a f
    e e gh ha e a c e ac . I b Ch a a da Ad ch e. She
    e ab he Da ge f S g e S . Wha I e ab he a he
    h gh gh he fac f h he g e c ea e e e e . The
    b e ha he ' e e b ha he a e c e e. The
    a e e bec e he . I ed c e a e ab h
    g e h gh e f he e ec e f ch d e
    ch d-ce ed de g . I ef ec ed ha he g e a a e h ch
    e f ch d e a e e ac de g c e . Th
    e h g h ch I ha e hea d e he ea g f d ffe e
    c a e he ec ha e a a a ha e ha gh f
    he ch d, g ch d e e e e a d e c g,
    c d be ha d ch d e ab b ec a e ? A g
    ea de e e a g h, h ch he ca e f a f he e .
    The e de e e a g h a d e e ch d e a a .
    The e h eed ge de he e e e e ca d c e
    e .
    C g ha a ead d e h h e ec he e a
    f h ch d e ch g , edag g a d a c e ce,
    ec f ca b he e h ee f g e . The e c e a a ab e e h ch
    a ab ch d-ce ed de g . Wh a e e add e g h a a
    De g Re ea ch c fe e ce? I e a e ha he ca e h,

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    de g e a f g. I fee e a a fe a de g e ,
    e ea che a e h e e ed h f e d ha a e
    e ec e a b e a d e he h gh a f
    g a . I e e e a he cha g g e a d h fa
    ch d e a e a g g a d h fa f e ge e a a d f
    d c e a d a f g he de g h
    c e .
    I d e add e he fac ha ha a ca e e
    be e ? O ce e de a d he eed f , a a
    h ca e e he ? The e a e a f h g h ch a e e.
    B ef , d g a e he , ha I ca e ac ea e f
    ha ca e he e ch d e a c a , a he a
    e a d a f he ce , a c ab a he e b g he
    ch d ge he f he ec a d a e ce a d, a , a ch d- ed
    a ach. I e he ch d a e he d e ' ea a d g de
    h gh he ce a d he ha e e c he dec - a g. I
    a a g a e f he e g d bad, a de e d he
    ec ha e, he b dge ha e a d he d f a ach a a
    de g e a a e. I c d be a a d a ch f a he e
    a ache c d be e h g ec f c. I a ha
    e g a d ha ca a e f .
    I e a ab h e g a f de g e ea ch
    h ch I ead a fe ea bac . I b L Sa de a d ha he ed e
    de a d he De g Re ea ch c e . She bea f
    e a h c ad c a ach h ch e he de g e ea ch
    f e d. E he a f e e a e de g ed e ea ch ed. Pe e h
    c e f he a a d h a e bac g d h ha e a e
    e ec e a d a f h g add b he a ache gh d ffe
    a . Sec d , e ha e h e e d e a H e e ed

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    h a , a c a d e . She d f ed a he a a d
    ha e he d ded he de g ed a ach a d he b
    e ea ch ed. O he gh de he e a e e d e h ch I
    e a f he de a . L g a b ec a e f a
    a d he a c a d e e f a c -c ea e d e .
    Th he a ha L Sa de ca e h. Y ca ee a f
    e e e ce ed de g c ca de g a d e f he e e
    b bb e h a d a de a d he e d e a d
    h ? I e h g h ch f a ed d f he de g
    e ea ch f e d b a g d f h ch b bb e d
    e be g? Bef e I g ahead he e e a , I h a
    f e ec he e e f. I ca ee h a f a
    e a d b ef a ab d ffe e e h d a d I a e
    he e I e f. I e he e he dd e f
    a c a de g a d e -ce ed de g . E e ce I ed
    Ge a a d I ea ed ab he Sca d a a e h d f c d g
    e e a c c ea e , I ea ed h ch I a ed d ha . I f e f
    e e c e f a e e ce ed de g d e beca e
    ha a be eeded f he d c a d e e d c a .
    N I d e d he ac . I d ge a ca he
    QR c de, f d e ' , ca g S d .c . A d e he
    ha h ag DR2023. The e a e h ch I ha e aded f
    de a d h ch d f b bb e d be g ? I ge
    a e a e ec e f e e e he . I g e a e
    ef ec h , I d e ch bac he a a d d
    be ce f ca a e ha e e a d ca ee fe a
    he e ac e de. I a d g h f he f e, I a e
    h . I h e f .
    I a ead ee a f e e . A f e e a e a g e

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    ce ed de g , a d c de g a d ha ge e a e de g e ea ch. A
    f e e d ' e ha b g d ee a d he e -ce ed de g
    b bb e bec g b gge . I a g d e e c e f ef ec ce a
    h e ha he e d I e f a d he e d I a d? O
    c e dea g e c d d ffe f e e e e. I d ' a
    g e c e a d a e f d c beca e
    e ec e a a e a . Tha f a c a g
    h a d ca c e g a ch a a he cha .
    I d e e ahead he e e a a d a ab
    h e e d e a d a c a d e h gh ec . The
    e e d e ac a de g g f e e, c e
    de g g f ch d e . A I a d bef e, I ' e ea e f aga a d
    h h ec I d d ha I h gh I a de g g f ch d e . M
    ec de h e h ch I d d c ege h ch a e ab
    c d g he e c ded. I ed h he S ec a O c I d a
    O ga a h ch ba ca Pa a c f d h ec a eed .
    D g he COVID e , he e e h g a h g d , a
    bec g e a d e d ff c f ch d e h ec a eed e
    A , D d e ada he e cha ge a d ge de
    he e. We de g ed a c e ea g f he a d he a
    e d d a de a d he ec e f he ch d a d e ed
    e e e e e h d f fa ha e . Ph he a ,
    cc a he a , c ache , ch g , ca e a e , a e ,
    e a e , e a d e e e a d e ed de a d h c d e
    be e fac a e he eed .
    Th eb e e a d ca ed a f f d ada e
    cha ge . We ed e he dea f c a e a ea g ha
    c d be df h gh e a d ha e h a a e a ach .
    R gh , e ha e ed d g h ec beca e a f h g

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    cha ged af e COVID b e c e hea a d I a d
    f h ec a d d f b gh e c e h dea f g h
    e e b d g ha e, e ec , I ea e ha e d ' ea
    h ch d e , e d f h ed he , he e a d
    ed h he a d ed e he a f a he ce
    a he ha g he be e e h g.
    Whe a e g f a e e e d e , a
    a e be d e a a d he a e b d g
    e h g h he , a d de a d he e b g c ec
    e a efac a d ge ab he e e a d e d d
    ha a b g ge e e e d c e h he
    b ec h ch he e e e da . Th c d he , a a de g e
    e ea che , ead be ee he e a e .
    O e f b gge e gh h ec a a e a d
    g a d a f e c e a a ac age he de g f d a d he a e
    he e dec a e . Y ha e h ab he e a d
    ha fac c d f e ce he beha f he d a e . I
    he ch d beca e he ch d a g he dec . Th
    ec a e e e g a d ca chec he eb e a e f
    a ?
    N I d e a ab e f fa e h ch
    a c a d e , ha de g g h e e. I h d e , e
    ee e e a e e e he d a f e e e ce ch a g,
    ea g a d g. We a d e he a c -c ea e he d e .
    Th f e ced b Sca d a a a d d g a e he I ed
    De a a d S ede . De a fee e a g d ace beca e
    e a f ea g ch a e e b I had he f e
    e e Ca e Ma h e h a de g e f ch d e ' gh a d h
    e he a d d g e e h d a ec a ace f e. He

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    a d "De g g f ch d e ac a de g g f h a . I d '
    d g h be ee ch d e a d g - . F e, g - a e
    ch d e ha a e b e ". I h b d a e e f e de a d
    h e a e a ch d e a be ch a f c ea g e e e ce
    h ch a e a be e f ad .
    I d e e f c e f h a c a
    a ach b bef e e ge , I d e a ab a beca e
    a a a eg a a f he ec I ed . P a c d ea
    d ffe e h g f d ffe e e e. F e e h g h ch a
    e f c , e h g e D e a d c d be f ga e . I
    e e ac e, a f be b ece a a h d be
    a a ed e h g f ha . P a ac a a ea e
    ac , a e f a a e ea . The ab a c ca
    be ha b a a g c a e a h a d be g a
    c ea e, a e e . S a B e ed h , e a a e
    g a a e ha f ac a d c d g he a ce f
    da e . If bac ch dh d, e ha e a a bee
    a c a ed h a , he e b e ed b g f e d a g, a
    a ec a a g h he . I c d be he gh a d b e
    a h ch ee e a e be ee a a . I c d a be
    c a a he e e ac a a h he e e a d e
    c .
    I ed a a a e h d f e ea ch ce . I
    c d c ed a - h e ea ch h ch d e Be a d a a
    e e g ec beca e I a e ca ed a a I d a g
    Ge a h ch d e f ef gee a d g a bac g d b e
    f fe a d e h g e e g h ch d f ade e h d
    a e e. He a d "I a f a d ffe e c e
    e e g ch d e f d ffe e c e , he d ffe e c e h d

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    be he ec a a d I h d d ge e f h ". I e ahead a d I
    c d c ed a e he h h e e f ha a ca
    c de g e e a d e g ac e a d e e ch d e h gh
    a ?
    The e ea ch a a a ac ce-ba ed e ea ch, I d e a
    beca e I a ed e a a a c ca de g e
    h a d I a e e ac e , e ea che fac a . I
    c d c ed a fe h h f e d Be a d e e
    h gh a ehea a . D ec g h ch d e a e d ff c f
    e. I h ce I ea ed f e e a . I e e ed e e
    De a a d S ede a d a Be a d a a e ded a fe
    h Be a d D d h ch a h Sa e he Ch d e .
    The e d f e h d e ed e ha I c d ea f he
    e e, h ac e edge a I d a . The e a a ach
    a d he a e d a g, e he age ca ee ef ,
    he a e d a g g h h be e c d be a d ea
    a a e a g d. I c d c ed e ea ch e a ab ac
    e ea ch e a d he d g .
    Th ec he ed e de a d h ca I e ch d e
    he de g e ea ch ce , I c d c ed he e a g f e dea
    a g b e h h he g a a d ef gee ch d e . I a e
    e e g beca e he ch d e ca e f d ffe e bac g d , he
    c a ch d e , e e h gh he be ged d ffe e c e ,
    beca e he g e Ge a , he d d ea E g h a d be g a
    e f I d a h ea c f de E g h, ca e a a e f
    e. I e ba c Ge a b I ed de a d he a d I
    de d he a ce f e ba c ca a d he age
    he ef -ha d de h ch ee h ch d e ef gee
    acc da a d ha a e d ff c beca e he e R a .

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    The e e f M d a. I h gh d be b e
    c ca e h he . Whe I f e he c a , I a ed a
    Ge a h e h ch I a g ea e Ge a . I
    ea ed he e e f f c e c I had Ge a a a a d he a e
    a he . We a ed da ce a d a e a b d ha
    c f e a d f he a e a a e e e e . If he d '
    ha e ha c f e h e, he a a a e a a eache .
    I had b ea ha e a d I a ed e e h e R a
    he e h , he ac ed a a T a h e he e de a d
    ha he e e a g a d I ge e a ed a f a e a a d I a ga e
    he f eed ch e e he h gh b d g h g h
    c a h e h g, ha e e he fe c f ab e h; Leg a d
    e ch e a d age . I e f d g a dd e g d be ee .
    F h , I ge e a ed h a a e a . Th he e
    ac e ' e e e ca e ace. The d ff c a f h
    ec a g he ec e . Rec g e f h
    f a eb e c d be ea e b a a g a a c e e e
    c a e d ff c f e f d c ac a d h ch d e
    e a ge c e f he a e ge a ed h
    e e h g. I e e be g a f e Be a d g
    he acc da . I e f he acc da I ed, I e e be
    a g he ch d e a d I e e be ge g e ec ed b 13 ch d e
    beca e he d d ' f d h f e gh c e. Tha e I
    de d ha I ca e he d e "c de g g f f e", I
    had c e a ba c , e h c d e a a
    5- ea - d, ca c e he e age a d a de a d ha
    d be he ce e f he c e e ea ch be a f
    e ea ch? C g f a bac g d he e I a ed a
    c ed e e , h ec a e h g h ch a f

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  14. Ca LIVE Ra T a c
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    N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he
    e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed
    ed b a he a h a h a .
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    c f e. I ed a e f b ha g he e d f ac e , b
    a g he "Whe a a e fe c ec ed h a h g?" A d
    he had d a a c e a d a he c a a d e a e e e
    ha ha ea . Th de f g g he c ea e f eed a e
    a f e a d ha g b h a g age h ch he a e
    c f ab e h a a . A he a e e, f e a e, h d
    f M d a, he c d ' ead b he c d de a d e
    R a . A f h g d c e a g he a a d b e
    ed c a f he e h g bef e he h . I a a he d
    e h g a a h b a a g ace f e .
    C g ha , a be c e d e . Y
    ha e ee f e a d e e e f he
    e e a d c ea e a c f ab e ace f he , g he
    e a e he c e f e. Ch d e a e h e , ha
    e h g ha ca b d ed a e . Y eed g e e a d f
    a ec a d , a a ha b d he
    e a e a a d g ad a g e .
    N he h d a d he a a h ca e eg a e
    a f e d c ? We de d he eed f ch d-ce ed de g
    a d ha a ca e ca e e e? Le ' a ab ac ca e
    a d h e ca d d c a d e ce .
    The e a e e f he b g c a e e T ca B ca ga e , Leg ,
    Sa e he Ch d e , Se a e W h he US a d Sag M . The a e
    d g c ed b e h f e d a d he a e d ffe e d f
    d c a e . I a a beca e he ee a ch g he
    e ea ch e a d f e e a e e ed h f e d ee a
    e e f e e h g h ch he e e f d ffe e c e a d
    c e a e d g.
    O e f ch ga a De g g f Ch d e ' R gh . I a

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  15. Ca LIVE Ra T a c
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    N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he
    e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed
    ed b a he a h a h a .
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    a a ed b he N d c b a e he e e f Ge a
    a d N d c f e ced b De g g f Ch d e ' R gh a
    e e e g eb e h ch ha d ffe e cha e a e he d.
    The ca e h h a fe h ch a e g g de ha e
    he e c e ha e ab h ca e ch d e ,
    c de ch d e ' gh a e e h ca a d c a d
    e ce. If g he eb e, ca ee ca ed ch d e '
    de g g de. The ha e c e h he e c e ; de g g f
    c , de g g f a a d ea g a d de g g f afe a d
    a ab . The f c e ga he a d e ec ch d e ' e ,
    h ch c de he gh a c a e a d gh be hea d. Whe
    c c each c e, he ha e f a ed he h e h g f a ch d'
    e ec e. I e a a fe f he e c e h e ed
    ha c e c a he I a g .
    M g A aga . I a fa -f c ed C f
    df a d ee e a a . I a c e e a d d c . I a f
    a e b a he a e e e had de a d ha e eed e
    e e . We g ed b he c e a d ed a e h ee f
    c e . The f e a e e ch d e. The e h
    gh f -d c a a d e e ch d d ffe e a d e a d
    ha e he e e e ce . We a ed a e e d e e, c e
    a d - g a g. We ha e h e ca eg he e ca b d
    A a a a d e ha e ade e ha e e A a a h ch b d
    d e ' a . Y ca a d a ch d ffe e f . A f h
    a ef ec he d f c , he d f acce e a d
    he h g h . We a e g a a he e,
    e a ef ec g he ea f he d. Th e f he a h ch e
    a e d g a .
    The ec d he e a . Th a a d f a . We ha e

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  16. Ca LIVE Ra T a c
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    N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he
    e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed
    ed b a he a h a h a .
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    ed a e acce b e f ch d e h a e d e a.
    I a ac a a ed f ch d e h ADHD b g e a
    ee a d e a a a . O e a he e h dea he e e a
    e a d e a ga he a d e ec ch d e ' e a . We
    c d c h ee e ca h fa e e e ee a d e a d
    a e e e d ' a e a f da a f he fa e beca e a ch d'
    f a e a e a d f he a , he he h d
    ha e. A f he e h g , e g he ea a e a d a g he
    e ea ch a e h g h ch e a f a e .
    The h d e e e e ca a . A g a d g
    e a . We a d a f c -c ea e h a d ce
    a ge cha g g a d e h g ha c e a ac age f
    ch d e . We ca ca ch d e a d - e d e d he d
    c a . We a e a e h he ch d e he e
    h b he A a a b , e ed de a d he
    e f he ch d e e e e g a d c ea e a e . We
    ha e a h g ca ed a ch d c a c he e e ed c ch d e
    he a de e e a d ed c de he a e a d c ea .
    Ch d e a d ad a e a e. We a a f beca e
    f ch d e b he e g he a ge g ac a a e . We
    ea a e h g h ch f f a d c d a be
    f ad .
    The f a a ea a f he h e h g h ch I ha e bee a g
    ab f g ha , f , e a e ab h afe ace
    f ch d e . A I a d, c f a ga e a ch d' hea . C ea g a
    afe ace e he eed h a g c e-d e
    e a . Sec d, a he a e e e e . Whe e e b e
    ha e a d ee e e ha a de a d ha e be e
    f e a d a d g de he e ea ch he a ha a

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  17. Ca LIVE Ra T a c
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    N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he
    e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed
    ed b a he a h a h a .
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    b e he a de a d ha a e c g f a e e e
    e ec e. I a a de a d ha he ch d
    h he dec - a e b e e e a d he ec e f he
    ch d. I c d be he ca e a e , eache , c d be a e h
    d c g h. The f h f e ea gf ch d
    a c a . O e f he a h g , a d h a ch a f
    e e a f e, ha e de a d h ca ce e
    ch d e ' a c a be d e a d e b a g
    e c e e a ed b ac a ha g f . O e f he a
    h g h ch I d d h h he ef gee a d g a
    ch d e a ha e ac a d b ea . I a a a g h ch
    he had he face he he a c e he ab e. The e e e
    he e h g h ch ca a e h , ha e e ec
    ha e, e f a d e e g. Y eed de a d a d f d a
    dd e g d e h g a a d e h g he e e d
    e.
    C g he e a f he ch d-ce ed de g . We eed
    e a a f he g e a a e f he ch dh d. A e b e
    de g e a d e ea che , e eed c e h e ca ed
    e e e ce f ch dh d. A a e h e e e ced ch dh d I d a
    e e e A a a a d E e, ch dh d c d
    d ffe e . I a d c e , ea a d e he e e
    e ca c e h e c -c a e ec e beca e he a e
    a .
    La , ha ch f e g a d ea g h e. I h e
    e a he f e h h e edge f e d a d
    e. Tha a d ha ' f e. Y ca each e
    f a e ab A f ha e a e e .
    Kee e g, ea g a d g g. (APPLAUSE)

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  18. Ca LIVE Ra T a c
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    N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he
    e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed
    ed b a he a h a h a .
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    STEVE BATY: Tha , e ch. Le e c ee he he e
    ha e e ha ha e bee e h gh? I d ' ee a he e. D e
    a e he a d e ce ha e a e ha a a ? O he e I
    f e a a . Ye . Ha g .
    >> Ch d e b , e he e a b ad ec . I d ' f
    a e ha e e bee ed a a ch d a 16 a d 17 e ea ch. I a
    e e ed de a d h ca be f e b e a ache
    a e c e f a age ?
    SALONI MHAPSEKAR: Y ea c e a f ad , a e?
    >> Y g ad .
    SALONI MHAPSEKAR: Ye , e a g c e f
    0-5- ea - d 5-10- ea - d b a de a d he
    d e e eed a d bac g d he c e f a d c d be h ca ,
    e a eed a d c d be a e h g e a e each g . I
    a f d a dd e g d a he e a ache . A I a d
    h gh a f , I d d ' ea a e f ch d e b
    h ca a e e e a g e g e e a
    c ab a e h e e e g a d f ha eed c e
    h a h f a h ch a e e c ea e a d a f . A he
    a e e, a c e, he e a e e ec g he d ffe e eed .
    STEVE BATY: Tha g ea , ha . I a c c ha .
    Y e e a g ab he a g age ba e e f h e ca e d e
    ha e e a g ab . Y e e ab e ge a d b ha e

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  19. Ca LIVE Ra T a c
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    N e ha h a ed ed a c f a e e e a d he ef e a c a e . Th a c he
    e f Ca LIVE a d he a h ed a e b e f a e a d a be c ed
    ed b a he a h a h a .
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    ca e e e a a a h e f e g a d d e
    e a h g a g he a b d g ?
    SALONI MHAPSEKAR: Ye , ha a g ea e . Whe I a g
    h c e , I fe a d I h gh ha I a add g a
    g f ca ce h h e e ea ch f e d. I ed e e e h
    ac a ea ha a g age, h a e c e e a ed he . The ac ed
    a he T a h e f e g de a d e f he h g I d d a c e
    h a h ca h ch I ed g e he d a d a he
    ee h e e a f h h e he a g age. I had he e
    ef ec ea g a ea a f he , he ed e, af e
    e e ac ha he de d f , e a e g d c e
    he e d f h g h ch gh ge a a . I a
    de a d ha e h g a e be d ca ac a d eed
    a f he a d c de e e h be e gh ha c e
    e g.
    STEVE BATY: Tha ' g ea . Tha . I a c c af e d gh
    a d ge g a e f . P ea e e ha g Sa f ha
    e e a . (APPLAUSE) Tha ch. We ha e a b ea a
    c e f e . O e f he h g ha e e ab b h f h e
    e e a h g f e. The f ha De g Re ea ch he
    beg g f he de g ce . Tha a ee b a d e e f e
    ea he e ea ch ac a d c f a d c e e e a a e f
    he de g ac . Ye ca ee he a b h H e a d Sa
    e e e e g he ha he ac f de a d g he beg g
    f he ac f g. Y beg he a ha e d g , d
    f h g. B c a g h e e h d , h e e a c a
    e h d ea , e ge a che de a d g f e e '

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