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UXA2022 Day 1; Corey Tutt - The inspiration for what is DeadlyScience

UXA2022 Day 1; Corey Tutt - The inspiration for what is DeadlyScience

The inspiring story of how DeadlyScience came to be. The challenges and celebrations of the journey so far.

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August 25, 2022
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    UX Australia
    UX Australia 2022 – Hybrid Conference
    Thursday, 25 August 2022
    Captioned by: Kasey Allen & Carmel Downes

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    (AFTERNOON TEA)
    STEVE BATY: Hello. Hello.
    All right. Let me introduce our last speaker of the day and our
    guest speaker for the afternoon. Corey was recently awarded an Order of
    Australia medal for his work in promoting STEM amongst Aboriginal and
    Torres Strait Islander remote communities around Australia. He is
    passionate about education, passionate about science, technology,
    engineering and maths. He is a proud Kamilaroi man and we are very,
    very happy that he is joining us this afternoon. Please join me in
    welcoming Corey Tutt. (APPLAUSE)
    COREY TUTT: Thank you so much for having me. Sorry, I'm just trying
    to share my screen. Got a bit of drama here, tech drama. First of all, I
    just want to pay my respects and say Jingalari on the lands of the
    Bundjalung people and pay my republics to the traditional owners of the
    land I am on today. It is an honour to be joining you today. My
    presentation does contain images of children and community members
    that have since passed but we have permission to use their photos and I
    have this general warning even if they haven't passed but this is one of
    the sad realities of working in remote communities that unfortunately
    people do pass away. So we put this in here and pay our republics to all
    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who have joined us. A little
    bit about me, don't worry, deadly is a form of slang that us Aboriginal and
    Torres Strait Islander people use to describe something as cool or
    awesome. Anything - think of deadly Science as being awesome or cool
    science but less lame. I pay my respects to all the traditional owns of the
    land and our people, again, we have 65,000+ of science and culture. We

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    are the oldest living continuous culture in the world. We - our people are
    the first astronomers, the first carers of the country, land, sea and sky as
    well and today we have a cultural - we have a cultural responsibility to
    make sure that the next generation of deadly Scientists have all the tools
    they can to do what their ancestors did for 65,000+ years on this
    continent and still do today.
    A little bit about culture and a little bit about where I come from.
    So my - both my parents are Indigenous. So my mother is from
    Kamilaroi country here in Walgett up here. My father actually came from
    Kamilaroi country as well and is from a place called Armadale where my
    mouse is there. Both those mobs, even though they are in the same
    country are completely different. This is an AIATSIS map and that is a
    really cool map. There are over 500 different clans and language groups
    in Australia. As you can see by the sheer size of some of the communities
    and nations the differences are completely different. For example, you
    take Wiradjuri country and you can go up towards Dubbo and the
    language is different. Down south near Deniliquin and Hay, it is pretty
    exciting. This is only a basic map of all the communities. There is a lot
    more dialects. The most linguistically diverse place on earth is
    Maningrida, right up the top here, right there, they speak 15 different
    languages in that community and there is no place on earth like it. It is
    pretty amazing.
    Sorry, a bit about me. I'm a Kamilaroi man, I grew up in Dapto. I
    started my career working with animals. I started off working in zoos. I
    worked at Shoalhaven zoo. I dreamt of being Harry Butler when I grew
    up. I wanted to be Steve Irwin. Most of my childhood is picking up piece
    of tin and catching blue tongue lizards and different reptiles. My
    childhood was pretty rough. I was often isolated from other people. My
    dad had left the family home at 9 months old so I didn't actually know my

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    biological father. That was really tough for a kid. My oldest sister played
    a huge role in raising me. Mainly because my mum had to work and
    other issues around my family as well. It meant that when I got
    to - when I was 16 and I got to year 10 and they said, "What do you want
    to be when you leave school?" The options given to me were stick to a
    trade, kids right you don't go to university, kids like you aren't smart, you
    should probably - you are not going to become a zookeeper or wildlife
    documentary and stop dreaming go and get a trade. I started working at
    Dapto Coles and McDonalds. I save up some money and went to Western
    Australia as a 16-year-old. I worked in a place called Roo gully which was
    like Tiger King but for kangaroos. It was a tough experience for me
    because I left home really young and it meant that I was this kid that
    really barely knew how to put toast in a toaster and, you know, it was a
    real sort of coupon moment in my life as a young person. I spent time
    with this couple called Jim and Norma. Jim and Norma were amazing.
    They are no longer with us but they taught me how to cook lasagne, how
    to make a bed and all the basic life skills I missed out on. I came back
    and worked at Shoalhaven zoo, not known for its study HS records, so
    please don't Google that. One thing sort of led to another and I made a
    friend down the zoo and we were in the process of moving in together and
    he unfortunately passed away tragically and it led me to finding an ad in
    the paper for an alpaca handler job. I actually sheered alpacas for three
    years and went around Australia and New Zealand shearing alpacas and
    then I came back and I started working at the RSPCA. With the shearing
    of alpacas it was really interesting because my time at the zoo you were
    always challenging yourself. I always wanted to prove my careers
    advisors wrong, I wanted to prove people wrong that I could do it and I
    always had that determination. Whether that came from the fact that my
    father left at 9 moths old and I didn't want to have the same life he did or

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    just a burning desire just to show people that I could do it and not have
    that doubt but with me with alpacas I got quite bored of shearing alpacas.
    I was always trying to look for the next best thing so I would often cut
    their teeth or learn how the give them injections or worm them. I made
    really good relationships with the alpaca breeders. It was a really great
    job, I travelled around a lot. By the time I got sick of that job and I kinda
    got home sick because I was moving around at the time, I was pretty
    nomadic and was Australasian in different places at different times, I
    worked at the RSPCA and started cleaning the dog kennels and really got
    interested in training dogs because a lit of the dogs used to get
    euthanased and I really wanted to understand dog behaviour so I ended
    up getting my dog training certificate. I already had a diploma in captive
    management from Bankstown TAFE as a zookeeper. I ended up at the
    Animal Welfare League where I worked with a dog named bouncer.
    Bouncer had his throat cut and I rehabilitated this dog. It was my
    mission to get this dog adopted. Then I met my wife at an animal shelter
    and the joke in our family is that she picked me up from a pound, but it
    actually is true, she picked me up from a pound. I ended up working at
    the Garvan Institute for medical research where I started chaining the
    mouse books and then I got more interested in the research and then
    more involved with the collection of tissues for DNA analysis and then I
    got more involved in the genome editing process for rodents for research
    and I ended up finding DeadlyScience in 2018 and I really wanted to
    inspire other Aboriginal kids that had grown up just like me that maybe
    they slipped through the cracks and they are highly intelligent kids but
    they just need that person to believe in them. I started giving these talks
    down at Redfern and Waterloo in Sydney and I really built a strong
    connection with the community down there. We'd have 50 or 60 kids talk
    about anything from tech to physics to science, you name it. It really

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    grew organically and then I got on the blower one day and I started
    Googling remote schools and ringing them up and asking about their
    STEM programs and a lot of the schools would come back to me and say,
    "We've got literally no STEM resources" one school in particular had 15
    books in its entire school and from that moment I took up a second job. I
    was working as a laboratory manager at that time in the Charles Birkin
    Centre. I went back to the animal shelters and worked there and I raised
    $20,000 of my own money and put that back into resources and started
    sending them around the country. And then from that I start a GoFundMe
    page which over its lifetime raised $250,000 and it send - I was able to
    send thousands of resources and connect with communities all over
    Australia. And then I ended up working as a research fellow for the
    Matilda Centre and worked on the Cracks in the Ice project Indigenous
    and that was a little bit out of my comfort zone again. I was learning
    about crystal methamphetamine and resources in mental health and
    substance use and for me I wanted to dip my toes into something that
    wasn't animal related because I spent my career working with animals
    and I'm always looking for the next challenge in my career to push myself
    into a different direction. So mainly just because I - I love learning about
    things that I don't understand and I could never really understand why
    people took ice or how it got into community, how it was made. So I kind
    of learned - I wanted to learn all that kind of stuff.
    Here's all the boring stuff. So in the lifetime of DeadlyScience I
    have been honoured in many ways because I have been able to engage
    Indigenous kids in science and a lot of marginalised kids as well because I
    had grown up as a marginalised kid, didn't probably know it at the time
    but now I do. As a man I look back and see a lot of things, a lot of
    parallels to a lot of kids out there that do struggle not just because of
    race but because of social and economic status and things like that. So in

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    2020 I was embarrassingly named the Young Australian of the Year for
    NSW. I came up against a little-known tennis player in the national
    awards called Ash Barty. I was the first ever Indigenous person under 30
    to win the Indigenous STEM champion award and then I won a Eureka
    prize last year which was really lucky. It is a pretty prestigious award and
    then just this year DeadlyScience was on a - was on the McLaren Formula
    1 car and that was an incredible conversation. It was two days before I
    was meant to get married and this guy was annoying me on LinkedIn and
    he but saying, "Would you please meet with me?" I promised my wife I
    wouldn't do any work. To be an expert you have to do 10,000 work but I
    have put 70,000 hours in. I put a lot of money back into the kids and the
    communities because I want to make a difference.
    We got this call from McLaren F1 racing team and they wanted to
    put our logo on the side of their carbon tax which was very generous. I
    actually said no at the start because I really wanted McLaren to come and
    meet the community and the kids. We invited them down there and to
    their credit they came to Redfern and met everyone and the rest is
    history. All the other stuff has been really great but with the Eureka prize
    and all the awards, the responsibility... there is a responsibility to the
    young people that look up to me. We actually printed off a bunch of
    Eureka prizes and sent them to all the kids. This kid down the bottom is
    deadly. She was the first ever Indigenous student to apply for a prize at
    the Eurekas. She didn't win but the fact that remote kids hadn't applied
    for that award before in an award dominated by private school children I
    was just so proud. This is uncle Paul Butters our educator of the year for
    last year. This guy is an elder. He is one of the greatest scientists I ever
    knew or have ever known - and he is absolutely unbelievable. This is
    working house kids, they are a boarding house school and we printed off
    a Eureka prize for them and shared our award with them which is really

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    great.
    You will find me - this logo was drawn on a napkin and then it was
    fixed up by my cousin who made it look a lot nicer. This is me at Werin
    Aboriginal Medical Centre. Every time I go to the doctor - I have done
    this since I was 16 - I will always make sure I leave something behind
    whether it is a book or a piece of Lego, you name it because I really want
    young kids to be able to go to the doctor and not be fearful of the doctor.
    Our people die way too early, they die way too young. For me as
    someone who has had a lot of relatives and people who have had
    preventable illnesses in our life I really just want it to stop. We have
    rheumatic heart disease in this country and 85% of the world has
    eradicated it but yet in Australia we have children that have to have
    open-heart surgery and are dying way too young of an illness that was
    completely preventable. Trying to encourage kids to go to the doctor is
    really important. It is part of the work that deadly Science does.
    For me this is a very common scenario for me. This is an Australia
    Post office as you can see by the - so the Darrel Lea chocolates there.
    There is all the Australia Post workers tearing their hair out. Often I am
    in Australia Post sending these parcels out to remote communities. I still
    pack all the books and resources even though I have five staff now.
    DeadlyScience has grown. We work with so many different communities
    and so many different kids. It is really important. It is all hands on deck.
    If you can donate today please donate because we need your help. It is
    not a one man Band it is a community of people trying to make a
    difference. These are the kids from Robinson River and we gave them all
    lab coats. Again, I ask the question, "What is a lab coat?" When we ask
    kids to imagine what a scientist is we get Albert Einstein, curly hair,
    glasses - I'm not bagging out anyone with glasses or curly hair, but it is
    generally Albert Einstein but he has Ben dead for a long time. It is time

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    to show kids what a scientist really looks like or a technology gist and
    really they need a mirror. For us we put a lot of lab coats in communities
    because when kids do science they should feel like a scientist and a
    scientist is not - it is not defined by race or gender, it is defined by who is
    wearing the bit of PPE to protect you from the chemicals. I get really
    excited when I see these photos because DeadlyScience doesn't just work
    with kids in schools and remote communities, we work with kids in all
    different backgrounds. This school on the far right-hand side is a juvenile
    justice centre and that's why you can't see any of the kids' faces and we
    work with them as well. So Don Dale youth detention facility,
    Rockhampton youth detention facility, ACMINA in Grafton, DeadlyScience
    has provided books to all the clients that have to attend those facilities
    and it is really important that kids that make mistakes get opportunities
    to love science and books and what not. If it wasn't for books I wouldn't
    be here. I was very, very lucky to have a grandfather that gave me my
    first book, which was reptiles in colour and that inspire ed me on a
    journey to go through zoo keeping and to get me where I am today. If I
    can be that person for these kids then I really want to be that person.
    We provide high school and primary school students and I've got to
    tell you this story because it is a really funny story but this kid here is
    Alfie's younger brother and he is from Katherine. We took these kids to
    Taronga Zoo and Taronga Zoo has been a real ally in DeadlyScience since
    the get go. Being a former zookeeper I have a lot of contacts within
    Taronga but during this first trip to Taronga Zoo we organised this trip for
    him to come down to Sydney and spend time with Dr Karl and some other
    cool scientists. There were these baby tiger cubs and we were telling the
    kids about these tiger cubs and how their tiger stripes act as an insect
    repellent and that is pretty cool. I did a head count and was missing a
    student. I was panicking. I thought I just lost this kid from Katherine,

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    it's done, everything is over, I was really self-conscious about it and then
    this kid walks out of the pushes and is holding this bush turkey and I said,
    "Alfie, you have got to put that down." He said, "Why, I want to eat it?"
    I said, "You can't eat the bush turkey and hear are some reasons why."
    During the Great Depression these birds were eaten nearly to extinction.
    The male bush turkey has a phenomena for a beak and the baby bush
    turkey is completely autonomous when it is born. He put it down and
    said, "These bush turkeys are complicated." I laugh every time I see that
    because it is really funny. It was a really special moment. Alfie is now a
    man, like he is 16 and he has got his Ls and he is still going to the school
    and dreams of going to uni and we have been able to keep this kid in
    school which is really important. Down the bottom we have all the kids
    from Redfern on the block and I had this idea during lockdown last year.
    We had a lot of state lockdowns and I lot of our remote communities
    couldn't travel interstate to experience anything like the zoo. A lot of kids
    don't actually get to go to the zoo ever in their lives. We got all the kids
    from Redfern. I gave them a sheet of paper with five animal facts on it
    and said, "You do the rest" and we created this whole virtual excursion
    experience. Kids in the bush could go to the school and it was other
    Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander kids teaching them about animals
    and it was a phenomenal experience and I loved it.
    Here is some of the impact. I was born on Yuin country and grew
    up as a Yuin man, even though I am Kamilaroi, I grew up with other
    people and a lot of the country burnt in 2020 and my book, the First
    Science is actually the cover on the inside is about the bushfires and
    Cobargo and other places going up in flames. It really affected me
    because I spent a lot of my time and childhood there and spent a lot of
    time shearing and working there and working on the South Coast as well.
    We replaced a lot of the - we replaced the books of the kids who lost their

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    homes in those communities not because it was - it was important that
    those kids actually got replacement books and things like that because
    possessions go but often people don't think about the educational loss
    that comes with these natural disasters. Same with Port Macquarie, I was
    in waste-deep water where I live pulling out - I was in a lot of the caravan
    parks pulling out driers and washers and things like that during the
    floods, it was pretty scary at times. There was a lot of people that had
    their lives in danger and I helped out with the RSS and the Defence Force
    in cleaning out a lot of houses and helping as will of people who lost
    everything. We replaced the whole library at telegraph point that was
    completely destroyed by the floods. We did the same this year for
    cabbage tree island and a few other communities as well that was
    damaged by the floods this year. We also successfully connected the
    Redfern youth Connect centre with internet and gave teenagers a safe
    space to do their homework. We have helped community schools reach a
    40% increase in attendance and I just got off a meeting with the NT
    education department yesterday and Robinson River school achieved 95%
    attendance since 2018 and are able to get more funding now which is just
    incredible. It is an incredible thing to do. It is an incredible goal for the
    whole community to get attendance up really highly. These are the food
    boxes.
    So last year during the lockdown a lot of Aboriginal families
    struggled with food so I organised over 2,000 food hampers to go out to
    all the communities so children could be fed. You shouldn't have to live in
    a country where a pandemic causes a global - almost a nation-wide food
    crisis but we had that and I'm glad that deadly science was there. Yeah,
    so, we actually provided - it was actually 2,000 hampers across Walgett,
    Gilgandra, Orange, Redfern and Waterloo. We provided books to kids,
    they didn't have access to internet at home. Not everyone has access to

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    internet at home. This kid is really fame use for the Q+A episode that he
    asked professor Brian Cox who is a quantum physicist why stars blink.
    That was his claim to fame this. Is one of the really awesome letters we
    get. Kids are just - getting kids to write letters is so important. Literacy
    and numeracy is really low in remote communities. Not everyone gets
    the opportunity to read or write. This letter is a success story. We have
    been replacing the schools that have lost books in the floods as well. Just
    yet I was in Lismore visiting all those kids. We replaced all the STEM
    resources and donated a bus to the Cabbage Tree Island community. The
    first time they have had a school bus as well. Donated 10,000 Lego kits
    and currently have another 50,000 pallets to go out. We have deadly
    learner sessions if you are ever interested in volunteering can
    DeadlyScience and are a professional you can help us by connecting with
    remote schools and giving them experiences and different careers. I
    know meeting someone that was a zoo keeper when I was young had a
    huge impact on my life and helped me see that I could actually do it. You
    never know the impact you may have on someone. We're developing the
    first culturally appropriate chemistry kits for school. Rheumatic heart
    disease is a huge problem in our remote communities but part of the
    solution is making soap cheap and readily available. We are making that
    readily available for communities and working with elders to develop
    those kids. We are developing grants to remote schools so they can
    apply for a grant of $5,000 to actually put a lab in their school. So
    thinking about more solution-based problems to the great resource divide
    and helping schools put labs in schools so kids can have access to these
    kids that are really important to helping kids develop an interest and a
    passion and a purpose.
    We have DeadlyScience club. As you can see by my lockdown hair,
    this is a portal where students can take control of their learning and help

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    them with their development with the deadly science facts and have the
    DeadlyScience learner sessions which have been phenomenal for remote
    communities.
    This young fella's name is Trey. He is an important kid. I taught
    him to read and he is from Geraldton. He is 6 foot five and has a rat's tail
    and is a pretty intimidating kid. He was really struggling with school. He
    reminded me of myself a little bit, just with the school not really fitting
    him and I took him under my wing and I'm really glad to say he now has
    an apprenticeship with Rio Tinto as a geologist. He doesn't want to be a
    deadly footballer anymore. He is a really great kid. He has my phone
    number if he ever needs anything he gives me a call. Sometimes he
    gives me a call just to prank me and pretends he is Kochie from Channel
    Seven. I love that about him! I am lucky to have a lot of these kids in
    my life who I have helped out. These are the kids from Wonga House.
    They are the greatest kids I know. They leave community and leave
    country to go and do education off country. They are always trying their
    best and always have smiles on their faces and I think they are Deadly, I
    have a real close relationship with all the houses and the kids call me or
    send me face Times all the time. I will tell you a pretty emotional story
    as well. One of my students unfortunately passed away in a really terrible
    accident and I was really gutted. I was really down in the dumps and one
    of the girls from Curren House which is one of the foster care houses up
    there called me and just - they called me as a group and I had to cancel
    our Deadly Learner session because I was really distraught and upset.
    That is a common practice unfortunately. It is the reality when you work
    with so many people these things happen. And there's this book
    called - it's called Emperor penguins and I gave this book to this kid
    because she really liked penguins and she read the book from start to
    finish. That was one of my proudest moments as a human to have that

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    and I met with that kid, she wanted to read a book to me because she
    could read it from start to finish without having to stop. It is just a really
    special moment. That is just the impact of DeadlyScience.
    As I said we help kids out of the education system as well. Kids
    who have dropped out of school, help them fall in love with science and
    hopefully they come back. The teachers need educating too so we work
    with teachers to make school more accessible to kids that have fallen out
    at school. Science is really for everyone. Everyone can do a form of
    science, it doesn't really matter, it doesn't discriminate so we help out a
    lot with that.
    We have a drink bottle project. We still do. Haven't done it in a
    while but I gave every kid on Tiwi Island a sustainable drink bottle and it
    was really special because for me, like every child in Australia should
    have access to their own drink bottle and I think having a sustainable
    drink bottle is just a basic human right and fresh water so we work
    through the Poach Centre water project and got a new drinking project
    installed in Wallaga Lake in Broken Hill.
    This is our greenhouse project. We put a greenhouse in at Walgett
    and on Mornington Island. We have a lot of problems with diabetes in
    your community and preventable illnesses but if we can get kids growing
    food in the classroom potentially we can create a micro economy for the
    school and help reduce the food price in remote communities by allowing
    communities to take control of their production of food. We do all this
    kind of stuff with our solution-based model.
    This is a really important one this. Is young Kayleen. She is
    unfortunately no longer with us. It is a really special moment for me
    because if you ever wonder why do I this and why I do DeadlyScience and
    why I work two jobs and put myself out there on social media, I
    am - people who know me personally, I am a bit of a jokester but I am

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    also quite shy. The reason why I put myself out there with this kind of
    work is because of people like Kayleen. She desperately wanted to look
    for a telescope and I tried to look everywhere for a telescope for her and I
    couldn't find one. I wanted one that she could have an iPad on that could
    reflect the image of the telescope onto the iPad so she could have a
    telescope that was accessible to her. It didn't exist. I got quoted 40
    grand for something that might not have worked but I didn't really have
    that money at that stage. That was the last promise - that was the
    promise I really couldn't keep and I just felt - feel horrible about it but I
    did the next best thing and Kayleen if you ever want a reason why
    DeadlyScience is so special to me and a lot of other people it is because
    of people like Kayleen. I got a projector and I turned off the lights and
    projected all the galaxies around her. I put the stars around her. I think
    that moment of just feeling so special and normal for that kid was just the
    reason that I do it. I am really grateful for Kayleen. We maintained a
    pretty strong relationship. Last year with the carers changed quite a bit
    for kids with disabilities. It was pretty tough for me. I found this perfect
    present for her. It was like a turtle with all the bells and whistle, it was a
    projector that projected lava and it was under water stuff as well. It was
    going to be nuts for Kayleen and I loved it. My wife and I sent this
    present away with eagerness but it came back with a letter saying that
    Kayleen had passed but I was really pleased that I could give that kid that
    moment, that moment to smile how it impacted her in such an incredible
    way. I'm very lucky that Kayleen gave us all the why for why we do this.
    I am very lucky and blessed to know someone like her. I will never forget
    her and I am just really grateful that I knew her.
    This is some of the work we do with remove communities. It is
    really beautiful. We take strawberry DNA, make lava lamps, work with
    Dan sultan and learn about why gorillas fart. We provide remote schools

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    with the lesson plans and it is really important that kids get these
    experiences.
    We've also been working with Tamika Davis to provide emotional
    cards for kids with disabilities so they can communicate with us. This is
    team Slade. Tamika is doing a really cool thing at the Koori knock out
    where she is having the first tent for kids with sensory disabilities.
    We are also giving communities a newfound excitement for STEM.
    These are the great inu. We are getting kids to collect bill by samples and
    send them to Australian genomics lab manning out the DNA of the bill by.
    The kids are directly involved in it, which is awesome.
    This is the great - we have programs with rangers and that is a
    plumbers camera and we are taking images and sending the data off
    which is pretty awesome. We actually ran - I have the partnership as well
    as I am an ambassador of the captain starlight foundation. A lot of the
    kids in hospital - will often present for captain Starlight. I think a lot of
    Indigenous kids end up in hospital and I don't want them to miss out just
    because they are unwell. Kids that make mistakes and kids that fall all
    should not miss out on science and STEM. It is so important to include
    them and make them feel wanted and part of being a scientist is being
    deadly. I just want to help those kids out as much as I can so we work a
    lot with them.
    We distributed Lego to over 400 schools. We have so much Lego in
    our warehouse at the moment. Our warehouse is actually lent us to. We
    don't get funding for a warehouse. This is a mates rates kind of thing.
    They lend us half the warehouse, which is really cool and we are taking
    over that because we are taking so many donations in to send out to
    school which is so important.
    Deadly learner, deadly labs, deadly weather and deadly junior
    scientist, if there is any technology companies listening we want to get

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    involved in getting pathways set up for these kids so they can go into
    STEM jobs in the future which is really important. So you can totally get
    involved. Get in touch with us, go on our website, become a partner, help
    us send resources, it is all really important. What you can help us with is
    really important hip us bridge the gap for some of these remote students.
    Please donate to DeadlyScience, if you have workplace
    giving - volunteer yourself as well. Skilled volunteers are important for
    an organisation like DeadlyScience, helps us bill. We want to build
    partnerships that would employ deadly Scientists. I would love to see us
    grow so we can employ more Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people
    to replace me because success for me is not sitting in this seat talking to
    you, it is actually one of my deadly junior scientists being the CEO of
    DeadlyScience driving into the future. Sponsor, school and stem events,
    become an ambassador, buy our books, do what you can to help us grow.
    It is about the whole community, it is not about black or white, it is about
    making sure kids out there have equal access to STEM is so important.
    Yaluu. And I will leave this up and you can scan the QR code if you like. I
    will go to questions now if anyone has any to ask.
    STEVE BATY: Corey, thank you so much. I will look to the audience in
    the room here and see if anyone has a question that they would like to
    ask Corey and we do have a microphone with Emily over there and she
    will bring it to you if you do. Does anyone have a question in here?
    Stunned. Stunned. Corey, I have a question for you and I'm looking at
    you on the screen in case you are wondering why I've got my back to
    you. There you are, see? This is an incredible body of work that you're
    create ing and an amazing spread of programs. From the sounds of the
    work that you are doing, it is national. Like you're working with remote
    communities right across Australia, is that correct?

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    COREY TUTT: That's correct, we have a presence in every state and
    territory. We only have five staff members as well and they are all based
    in NSW. The beauty of technology connects us all. Actually I had a really
    cool time last week, I was in Adelaide at the Aboriginal STEM conference
    and handing out with kids from the APY Lands, some of the feedback was,
    "Thank you for helping us believe in ourselves and be confident."
    Everywhere from One Arm Point up in the Pilbara all the way down to the
    Kimberley region to the Pia Wadjari community in Western Australia
    across that great desert to Port Augusta to Ceduna, all the way through
    the NT and Queensland out to Walgett, Lightning Ridge to some of the
    Illawarra schools on the South Coast we have a presence, they are all
    communities that we have sent resources to or we have done Zooms with
    or have connected with in some ways. It takes a village so we wouldn't
    be able to without support - we have a lot of support from members of
    the public, which has been really great, and I'm just - I am a man on a
    mission. There is 24 hours in a day and I am determined to use all 24 of
    them to make a difference.
    STEVE BATY: It is incredible what you are doing with your time. Thank
    you for taking some of that time to speak with us today and tell us about
    what you are up to. Please join me in thanking Corey. (APPLAUSE)
    Does that make anyone else feel like they're wasting their time?
    (LAUGHTER) Far out! One of the reasons why I wanted you to hear what
    Corey is up to and what DeadlyScience is up to is that our society is full of
    systems that are designed and work pretty much as they're designed and
    they work really well for some people and they really don't work well for
    others. And our Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities are
    one of those groups where a lot of our systems just don't work well for
    them. Our education system isn't working well for them, our health

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    system isn't working well for them, our justice system isn't working well
    for them. And as a result across a whole range of socio-economic and
    demographic and health indicators, they are disadvantaged and the
    systems are holding them back and what someone like Corey is doing
    with his time and what DeadlyScience is doing with their resources and
    their energy and their networks is actively intervening in those systems to
    turn them around. And one child at a time, one school at a time, one
    interaction at a time, one community at a time they are trying to change
    those dynamics so that the trajectory of those kids' lives and the
    communities within which they live and work and will ultimately
    contribute, are shifted in turn. There is a lesson in there for us, I think, in
    that all systems are operating as designed, our economic system is
    operating as designed, our health system, but the design of that system
    almost always means that one group is being disadvantaged while
    another is being advantaged. And we can, and we should, think about
    the ways in which not only are we designing things but the ways in which
    our work can help change those trajectories, can address a problem, can
    address a disadvantage, can address an inequality and shift the balance,
    shift that dynamic and shift that trajectory of people's lives and they are
    very, very real impacts that we subsequently have. So I wanted you to
    hear that story because it is the story of success. Corey and
    DeadlyScience are absolutely changing the lives of people, they're
    changing the trajectory of those communities and it's something that I
    think we can, and all should, aspire to.
    That's it for us for this afternoon for day one. Thank you so much
    for your attendance and your attention and your interest in these ideas.
    Enjoy your evening and I look forward very much to seeing you all back
    here online and in person tomorrow morning at 9am. Thank you so much
    for a great day.

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