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Bozhidar Batsov
September 01, 2019
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CIDER Distilled: A Common Foundation for Clojure Tooling
Slide deck from my Clojure/south 2019 presentation.
Bozhidar Batsov
September 01, 2019
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Transcript
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M-x
Bom dia!
Божидар
Bozhidar
Bozhidar
Bojidar
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Bug cool
Sofia, Bulgaria Sofia, Bulgaria
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Top 10 Bulgarian “White” Hackers
#NRALeaks
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Expert in cyber security
Expert in the following programming languages: Unix, Emacs, Perl and
Ruby
The Don Juan of IT in Bulgaria
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First time in Brazil!
Second time in Brazil!
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First time in São Paulo!
First time at a conference in Brazil!
Cultural Exchange
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Population of São Paulo: 12 (22) million
Population of Bulgaria: 7 million
Artur Malabarba
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@bbatsov
metaredux.com
emacsredux.com
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Cider?
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Clojure Interactive Development Environment that Rocks
… for Emacs
CIDER Distilled: Beyond emacs
CIDER’s Architecture
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CIDER’s Orchard
Orchard?
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noun 1. a piece of enclosed land planted with fruit
trees. an apple orchard 2. (in the context of Clojure) a fertile ground for Clojure tooling. CIDER’s Orchard
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Created especially for REPL- powered tooling
Extremely flexible
Transports •bencode (default) •tty (built-in) •http(s) (via Drawbridge) •transit (via
Fastlane) •EDN (coming in nREPL 0.7)
Extendable
Piggieback (ClojureScript Support)
shadow-cljs (ClojureScript Support)
cider-nrepl
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Common functionality for interactive programming environments
Thin wrapper around (many) nREPL-agnostic libraries
Fundamental Tooling Approaches •REPL-driven (runtime state inspection) •Static analysis based
(parses and analyses the code)
unrepl prepl nREPL
orchard (swiss army knife)
compliment (code completion)
cljs-tooling (too hard to explain)
thunknyc/profile (self-explanatory)
fipp & puget (pretty printing)
•cljfmt •tools.namespace •tools.trace •tools.reader
REPL-powered tooling runs alongside your application code
Mr. Anderson (dependency inlining)
There’s a lot going on here!
And we haven’t mentioned a single Emacs library…
But wait, there’s more!
sayid (debugging tool)
weasel (ClojureScript REPL)
refactor-nrepl
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The Lay of the Land
Calva (VS Code)
Calva -> Calvados
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Calvados is distilled from cider.
Calva is distilled from CIDER.
vim-fireplace
vim-iced
acid.vim
CCW (Eclipse)
Proto REPL (Atom)
Non-nREPL tools
Chlorine (Atom, prepl)
Conjure (vim, prepl)
vimpire (vim, unrepl)
Cursive (IntelliJ, static analysis)
clojure-lsp (cross-editor, static analysis)
•cider-nrepl -> orchard-nrepl •cljs-tooling -> orchard-cljs
Naming is hard!
cljs-tooling compliment orchard
Clojure’s Orchard
Case Study: Improving ClojureScript code completion for everyone
cljs-tooling => compliment
clj-suitable
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Language Server Protocol
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LSP or nREPL?
•You can run them side by side •You can implement
LSP in terms of nREPL •You can proxy nREPL requests to an LSP server •You can implement LSP in terms of the same underlying libraries*
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The State of Affairs
The Challenges
25% 5% 70% Yes Maybe I already have Notepad No
Do you want great Clojure development tools?
69% 25% 5% 1% Yes Maybe I already have Notepad
No Are you willing to work on Clojure development tools?
Few maintainers, many libraries
Areas of Interest •sayid •refactor-nrepl
ClojureScript
Areas of Interest •Piggieback •cider-nrepl •orchard •compliment •weasel
Where’s my hammock time?
Inconsistent APIs
Documentation
cljdoc
https://docs.cider.mx
https://nrepl.org
AsciiDoc + Antora
Funding
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2013-2017 (estimated) •$5000 in donations •~3000 hours of work on
the projects
Definition of Work •Writing code •Reviewing code •Discussing ideas •Educating
myself so I can write/review code and discuss ideas •Supporting end users via Slack, email, etc •Collaborating with other tool authors
2018 •$4000 (OpenCollective) •$5400 (Clojurists Together)
2019 (projected) •$18,000 (OpenCollective) •$9,000 (Clojurists Together)
2,250/month
Little support from Clojure companies
Development tools are a high leverage investment
Clojurists Together
opencollective.com/cider
opencollective.com/nrepl
GitHub Sponsors
Future of the Orchard
Sustainable
Stable
Community Driven
Community Supported
Open Source is not about You
CIDER’s Orchard is all about YOU!!!
Help Clojure’s Orchard…
…to help yourselves
Felina
Resources • https://metaredux.com/posts/2018/10/29/nrepl-redux.html • https://metaredux.com/posts/2018/11/09/ciders-orchard- the-heart.html • https://metaredux.com/posts/2018/11/11/ciders-orchard- the-periphery.html •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X-1fJm25Ww
One more thing…
CIDER 0.22 (Lima) is out!
CIDER 0.22 (São Paulo)
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Credits twitter: @bbatsov github: @bbatsov https://metaredux.com https://emacsredux.com Clojure/south São Paulo,
Brazil 01.09.2019