Gerrard Gosens - Change is Constant, Growth is Optional

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2. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 2 STEVE BATY: Welc me, ha k a d I ill h he a e ead g . GERRARD GOSENS: Fi I ill la a e h P e P i e e a i e ill ha e he c ee a d lea e feel f ee he l me la PC. STEVE BATY: E celle e . GERRARD GOSENS: Tha k . STEVE BATY: A he m me e ca ' ee ha e e a i . We ha e c ee a he m me . GERRARD GOSENS: M a l gie . G d m i g agai a d I hi k ha ide I e a e h a h i me f he i ie I' e had e he a ca ee b h i b i e , i , a d me f he e e al i ie I' e had e j , f m a e ea l age igh h gh me m e i e e i g hi g i climbi g e E e e a d me f he m e eali i f 'Da ci g i h he S a ' a d he i ie . F me a a a hle e b i l e ca celeb a e ha i c e l hel i g i he Pa al m ic Game hich i c e l f he e eek . M elf a a a hle e, I had a i a i f bei g i T k 2021, el beca e f COVID a d he i ge he la h ee alif i g e e . P e e ed me f m ha i g c m e e a T k b a d g e he C mm eal h Game . Tha ' he e I hi k i lead he i f m e e a i da , hich i cha ge i c a , b g h i i al.
3. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 3 A d i ' l ki g a b i l a he cha ge ha a e c a i li e a d h e e ca ake he g h a a ge f diffe e i ie I hi k I lea ha a a e ea l age f m m life i al a d egi al Q ee la d a d ha i g b h k a e call he fac f he hi g ha ca g a a a d a a e g kid I h gh ha fac f life ha e e i a e i a half e d i a I h gh ha came i h he ai f bei g a e g child a d i a ' il ha e fi da f ima ch l he e I eali ed hi g e e me ha e diffe e . The eache had a e i a e h gh f ge i g id f he e e e g f de a d aff a d k d he al a d he e e e e a ked la f he al, b i g ff he e e g . Of he la ghi g a d giggli g f de a d he al all me make e I k e he e he e e a d he al b he e fi la I e all me e e i gle g al he al a d i h ed me I a e diffe e he de a d aff a d I hi k f m he e he cha ge had kick i e ickl be able g a a de , l i hi he cla m b al he e he i g a e a a ell. A d i came i h me I e i e challe gi g cha ge , i a e e f h I a ed l k i h he de b al de el eam k a d me, he eam k i hi he cla m, he eam k ha cc ed he e he la g d he he i be d i g ece l ch ime a d he la i g diffe e f m f . Tha f me a I e a g ea a i i i h I lea e m ca ee , h gh high ch l, h gh i e i , a d h gh m a i bjec i e i life. I hi k f me f dame all a ab he eam k, he eam k I b il i la i g , he he i be f e am le i c cli g a d m b he ' bike i f f me, de el i g a mbe f diffe e hich I
4. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 4 ha e h gh m e i e ca ee . A I aid, i c me ea lie i h fac f life hi g ca a d ill g a a . De i e be eff hi g ill ac all ha e a d m e f e ha b i l f he e h i all bli d. Th e fac f life ca be im l he e h i i j ed ell a d h i e ec f a ai i g e i I e he i e i ic hi g ab m diag i all he hi g I ha e bee g ided b m fell eamma e i ha I e e had a calf m cle a ham i g, all m i j ie , e , ha e bee beca e f m g ide e a d he ha e me i a ked ca , ee , , le a he li g e . Tha c me i h he ai f bei g a all bli d di a ce e . Th gh he life h gh high ch l a d ima ch l a he challe ge b eak d he e ce i a d a S e he efe ed bef e i de ig , I hi k ha b i g me he e ec i e I e he hil h f cha ge c a g h i i al he e e h a d h e de ig I e h e cha ge ha ill mee eed f he f e. Me, i High Sch l a a e ea l age b i l ab hi ime, eam a d me maki g e ha a he e, b h i e all i h he aff a d he de b al e e all , i me f he ec ea i al ac i i ie I i e ded achie e e. The high ch l e he ea , ma ked hei la e a d al i h li e a d he li e ld i e ea e he g a a d di ca i g la ge be ee he la e a d m ch i a ea feel a a d he al. I ai ed a d ai ed a d ai ed he al, i a ea a d ce I became ed he e la k e e ac l he e I a i he al a ime I a able a e i e la m a d ff I e I came m ch l ca i al, I had bee ai i g f he 8 a d 4, a d I k e ha b i l i a 400 i i a ic la l ick a d i i im a
5. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 5 e abli h a e ea l lead. M ch l a 400 e e e i g m a ic la h e, I a e kee e abli h a e ea l lead, ha a I c ld be clea f m he fell e i he ac al ch l. Tha e a d lid, g a d he 100m ma k, hi g e e l ki g g d. I c ld hea he ffi g a d a i g f de behi d me b I a he 200m, ame f hi g. Tha 3 4m behi d me. Thi i he I a k e i a im a I d g a dee a I c ld il I hea d he c eam he c d, e h gh he fi i hi g el a d ac he li e a d c m le ed he fa e 400 Ye High Sch l had e e , e e ec ded. I e i e a ga l ca a a he ime i ill e e , e e be b ke . The ea bei g beca e f he 205 mi ima, I k a lef -ha d . I c igh ac he middle f he al, ac he li e a d c m le ed 400m i a ima el 42 ec d . I h ed he de a d aff ha he e a illi g make a a em de i e b i l he challe ge , a e a ed ha e a la a hei a ic la di abili . S me ime i i e im a ec g i e ha e e i gle e i he ld d e ha e a di abili , he he i i bei g all bli d, g d a he , g d a ma h g d a c ki g e e e ha a a ic la di abili a d h e k i h ha a ic la di abili de e d e al cce e h e b i l ada a d k i h he cha ge ge a d ha a ic la di abili . A ime h gh, he m challe gi g m me e e ide he ch l g d he e b i l he e ec ed a e f c e ill ake - ill ha e . Whe e he I e ld e ai , he e a e e ec i g h e hi g ha ill a i e. We f e g d Ye he beach he e a d ha e a c l ef e hi g im a h mme ' da , ch l h lida . The idal fl i i e b a ial. A ime he a e i la i g a he ba e f he ie a
6. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 6 ime e fl i g he . S a b i l g kid I ld i he edge f he ie , feel he a e i h m fee bel he ee , h k i g h fa h high he a e a a d I ld e l l lide i . M ma e ld j m i he a e a d I ld hea a ice he edge l l lidi g i a g a i ake h ld a e i i g he edge f he ie , m b a d h g ck a ail. I k e ac l f a fe ec d h e -ma feel , m b d a m ch f he h , m h i ed a d I e i he a e . The h ee di i c i e e he e f a e all bli d, k i g h ha ee he m emba a i g hi g, me bei g all aked h fi d a el he beach a d he e he ha d . De i e he be a em , hi g ca a d ill g a a . A I aid he a e he fac f life he e hi g ill ha e . A d h e c e i h h e a ic la fac f life i eall c i icall im a beca e b i l he ill be f amed i h e e i gle da f he life. I i e imila I e ha e call i d f a i de. Which i c i icall im a a a child, fi begi lea h alk, he ha e a fall a d he ge a d ha e a he alk a d he fall. The he i he ca e a d blame he l e ai . A ha i m m a d dad blame m m a d dad f l i c i he c i e il he e e all lea h alk a d he lea h . H e e a he g h gh hei a ic la i d f a i de c me i h he ial a d ib la i a I aid he fac f life hich ill h me m d a d g ime a he a ic la i d f a i de. The di a i me , he hea b eak , e e da , m hl ea l . Sadl I ha e ee a l f e le h ha e c llec ed hi m d a d g ime e hei e al i d f a i de a d he ha e died a a he age f 45, bee b ied a 85 beca e he h le i d f a i de i ch ked he l igh f ha i he ac al big ic e.
7. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 7 A d ha ' he e i ' eall im a , he he i be a dail e e e ha h l I e e ec i e make e e ha e a clea i d f a i de, a d ha e a e i g achie e. Beca e i a i ill a i e. A d a a e h i all bli d b i l he challe ge ill be ide m c l, ill ac all ha e a d maki g e e ha e he clea c a abili ee he g h f l ki g I e e, he he i be a ch l, a ic la b i e e , a ic la e al g al a ell. I g ad a ed h gh high ch l a d bega ki g i Ce al Q ee la d, f me he challe ge e e I e de ig a e ce i al challe ge am g he b i e c mm i a d i i am g he c mm i f egi al Q ee la d. T b eak d e ce i he had ab a e h a all bli d. We b ed a Me cede c e ible, e g a f m he l cal e i e gea a he R ckham lice a i , e had m fi g ide d g J e , e laced him i he a e ge ea f a Me cede c e ible, m elf i he d i e ' ea , I had he fi f age f he R ckham M i g B lle i a fe decade ag he headli e ead "bli d e bli ke lice ce Ge a d G e a d g ide d g ecei e d i e ' lice ce. J e d e ba k f lef , a ba k f igh a d a el f . Ab 65% f e le Ce al Q ee la d h ead he 1 A il, belie ed i a d e had h e call all da he lice a i , he e a e , a ki g h a d g e e e A gle Pa ki g a h le li f e i e . I a a g ea la gh, i a a g ea cha ce b eak d e ce i f me e h a b i l all bli d. I lea i g high ch l a ell a ki g i b i e I had me fai l la ge g al e a di a ce e . I ld challe ge m elf hile li i g i Ye a d ha i g g ide d g acce a he ime bei g i a em e a ea I ld kee e f he ad, e f he g a el
8. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 8 a d f m m h e he a k hich i ab 8km he e a d back. I ld hea he am a e g a d he f g, he e i a ig , I ld a d a d c me back aigh back m a ic la h e. I a i g h e, I e he e ie I ha e g h a a i di id al. M g al a be a fi e i he da f he S d e Melb e We field , he e d f Yia i K be he fi bli d e i he S d e a d We field . Tha came i h h ical a d me al e a a i . A a g 17-18- ea - ld I l cked he c age a d me i h he eam a E gge a ba ack e f he fi ig al egime emba ked he g al I a l ki g achie e, he k i a a a ic la e e ci e a d emba ked m fi e e maj l a-ma a h b i g f m P D gla he G ld C a . A d c m le e ha i ime, ba icall f m N h Q ee la d, P D gla - Cai he G ld C a fi e ime . I ha 2,000km j e , e had a eam f a I aid 35 ldie a d ma f hem e e m g ide ail , e e h i , cam c e a d e f he j e d he Q ee la d c a li e. C mi g ac a h le a ge f a i e ce i , a i de , a d challe ge e had face. N l a a eam b al i am g he a i egi al c mm i ie a d d he ea e eab a d. The e e e me i e ema kable e ce i e had I e cha ge e ha ime. R i g i a lace called Clea ie a lace called Macka a d R ckham , a mall ca a a a k- e I ld me ha mma i e a i a a e f he bli d beca e hi g a all ee he e. We d bled hei c mm i a e a i clea ie . The he f he Clea ie ca a a a k lled me hi e he a ic la fi cca i , aid M G e i i g ea ha e he e, g ea eff i g f m Cai P D gla he G ld C a he aid I ld like gi e a fe e i . He a me d i he e i e
9. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 9 e a d f he e i e h he ga e me 60 ca d . Tha a fi e, I ga e hem a a b adl f he e i e h he a m fi ge ac e e i gle ca d beca e he a med m fi ge e e e i i e I c ld feel ic e he ca d. Tha ' hi e ce i f ha b aille a all ab f a e h a all bli d. I c m le ed ha fi e ime . 2,000km j e . I a ead b h me all a d h icall c m e e, e iall i he S d e Melb e We field . I e e ed, I had m eam, I had he e i me , I a ead g . Tha ea he ca celled he S d e Melb e We field . N l did he ca cel i , i a e e be held agai . F me h gh, a e ea a d I c ld ha e i e ea il c ide ed ha gi g he b hi ki g, ell fi e ime , Cai B i ba e i I e a g ea achie eme a d e i ed I e e c mf abl i he e e f m e al g al e ec i e b f me i a ab ec g i i g ha cce i a j e , e e a de i a i . Tha i g ha e g al, ha e a ic la i . I ed m ha d Pa al m ic Game . We e e e A alia a fa h ee Pa al m ic Game i di a ce i g. Fi e, 10 ma a h a ell a he 1500 i 2008. F me h gh, ha eam f g ide e a d me a c i icall im a . A e ha e eam , he he i be i g eam eam i b i e , h e I e i di id al , aff membe , all la e diffe e le . The c me he le i h e diffe e ali ie a d e f m diffe e ac i . S g ide a e he e f he ec e , me a e he e f hill e a d me el f c m e i i . The all ha e hei i di id al g al a a e e e a i e f m a ic la eam. Whil b i l he e i g he ac al c m e i i a i he ac al ace, ma ge he acc lade , h e i di id al h la i he backg d, a i he hill e a d ec e
10. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 10 a e j a im a . A d h I c mm ica e a d h e k i h hem all i a e m ch i di id ali ic le beca e he all ha e hei a ie a h k i h ha . Whe I g i g i h a i di id al, he he i i he ad he ack, e e a h iece f h elace, a d I ha e i i m ha d, I ha e a mbe f diffe e iece f g ide e. All a e diffe e le g h . F m e h h gh he e l g. The ea h I ha e h e diffe e le g h f e i beca e l b i l f m a g idi g e ec i e i ' e im a b h e ac all c mm ica e. S i a ma a h b i l he l ge he di a ce a i he l ge he jec , he l ge g al e a e l ki g achie e, c mm ica i ca be d e e a aged e e ce. I ca be d e a e l g a , b i l e ca ac all ha e f e e e e f c mm ica i beca e i ' a l g jec , b i l he e i ime , he e i l ime i a e e f he e hi g ma be c c ed, i ill be d c , i c ld be he ac al jec i ma ake eek m h . I a ac al jec ha g e f ea . A i a ma a h f he 42.2. Whe e i c me d b i l a ha e a h iece f h elace he e alm ha d a e back back. Tha ' b i l i a 400 200. The ea h i ' c i ical be h i beca e he c mm ica i ha be ick, ha be c i e , a d ha be a id. The e i al a ha c mm ica i g i g be ee m elf a d m g ide e a he ame i h a jec e ide. I ha be b i l he h e jec , m e c i ical jec , b i l he m e i k ha g e i i a i 400m i m e i k beca e a I e mi di ec i , a fal e e ca mea ha half a ec d c ld l e a ac al ace. S ha ' h c mm ica i m be e ick, a d e eliable. Beca e i i cl e a ha d. B f me b i l i h m g ide e , c me d
11. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 11 aff a ell a d h h e i g edie ca la i ha e a e i g e. I ha e g e f m he A alia Pa al m ic c mmi ee back i 1993. A d f me i a ab a i g ha jec f m he back bed m a h me i h a la c m e . If had aid me a a g kid I ld begi he Pa al m ic c mmi ee i ha a I ld ha e had idea b i l he jec , i came d he a i , he g al a d he ac al i . Beca e h gh he cha ge a d maki g ha cha ge ha e he g h came i h b i l e h he c mmi ee k a d A alia a d i g he eam We k eam f a hle e i 1996, A la a Pa al m ic Game . The eam de i e he i e laced ec d he medal all . I ac al fac e e e i ed a he he e la da im l beca e a mbe f ela eam e did ' ha e. F m he e b i l e g S d e 2000, A he , a d he e g he 2021 a e a e he e . B i ha h le d f he i c me i h i I e he 18 diffe e . A d ma agi g h e 18 diffe e e ec a i , hei le , a d he cha ge i l de ig f he ac al e i me ha g e i h ha , a i f e am le he heelchai , he leg m h he e , ce he e , he e i cha ge k i h he a hle e, he f di g le el a d f d a d e ce e i ed h e i di id al a hle e a ell a h e eam a ell. F me h gh, i ha j e a ab ec g i i g ha I e i g edie e im a . I bega he Pa al m ic c mmi ee a d ked i h hem f 10 ea b h a he e ec i e ffice a ell a a a hle e. B ide h e g al I ha e a cha ce be i i ed climb E e e i 2003 a d 2005 cceedi g i 2005. Tha a i g ge he a e diffe e eam a d h e eam membe a e all i el diffe e i a i a i a d h he e e l ki g
12. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 12 climb e E e e . Whe I did ' a ecia e, f me i a ' ab m eam, i a ab he fac f life ha g i h i . I a ' he al i de, i a ' he mi 20 deg ee , i a ' he i m e i me i a he m e im li ic hi g ha came i h f e am le g i g he ile . Diggi g ha h le a d h i g like hell aim i e g d. M m al able iece f e i me E e e c m $5. I a ' m d jacke , i a ' m c am i a ' he i i elf, he $5 a e a ack bel a d ha ack bell a ied a climbe ' back ack . I ga e me ca , eliable c mm ica i h gh he ak bell a ed me b i l he cha ce f a ki g he e he e e a d k me he mmi f E e e . I had he lea e f ha i g di e i h i Edm d Hilla i 2003. Wha e le d ' ec g i e he he climbed E e e back i 1953 hi eam a ' 15 e le, i ac al fac hi eam a ' 100 e le. Hi e i e eam ha hel ed him mmi E e e i 1953 alled 2,000 e le. I k 2,000 e le ge he f E e e . I ' he ame i i , i i cl i , a d de ig a d i cha ge. I i ' ab e i di id al, i ake a e i e eam. A d hil ma celeb a e he e le h celeb a ed i 1953, m al ec g i e h e eam k eam ha a e behi d i i di id al a d h e ec g i e hem i al i e im a . I ca i h me e e he e I g a iece f E e e . I ca a iece f E e e i h me e e he e I g beca e i i a c a emi de , l j ab he fac f life b i e e m ai e climb he e ill be h e li le hicc , he fall , e c me ac a ic la j e . The e ha a e f e ide a ic la c l. S make e a I aid ea lie i maki g e e ha e ha i d f a i de e clea a d ha e a e l ki g achie e. I ha e ma e a ma e lec i g he h m ed he U i ed
13. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 13 S a e he b gh him elf a m ai bike. J i ed a l cal cl b, he eeke d he e f he fi ime i h he cl b, af e he fi fe h he had i e a fe fall , g i g a d d he m ai . The ed f a h b eak a d e m e e e ie ced m ai bike came T m a d aid, h a e fi di g i . He aid b i l i ' a bi gh a d e ha b he e d f he l g eeke d I ill ge he ha g f i . The e e ie ced membe aid T m, li e he a e g i g a d d me f he l e , ha a e l ki g a ? A d T m aid, b i l I'm l ki g a he ck a d he ee . A d he m e e e ie ced m ai bike aid, ell ha ' bigge mi ake. A d T m aid ha d mea ? A d he m e e e ie ced m ai bike aid, ell h ld be l ki g a he ga i be ee he ck a d he ee . A d f e e e d l k a he ac al b acle a he ha he ac al i ie . I lea ed ha f m a e ea l age he I b il m fi h e a d g i g 'The C ie -Mail' came i a d i e ie ed me beca e i m ki che l ge m I a k ligh he I b il he h e. 'The C ie -Mail' e e I e i e am ed ha a e h a all bli d ld be i g a k ligh i hi h e. I ema ked he j ali I a ' i g a k ligh i he h e f m elf, I a i g i i he h e f he e e h b he h e. L ki g f a d, l ki g a h e diffe e de ig , h be ld b i l be m e f he e ac all b i g he h e. Tha ' ha I ied d i de ig i g all m a ic la jec l ki g f a d l he eam ha i ge he b al he a ic la jec beca e I eed b i l c m leme ha ma k a ell a ki g i he f e a ell. If a k me ab b i l cha ge, a d g h, f me i a ab ec g i i g e f m bigge e e eg e a a g kid. A he
14. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 14 age f 18-19 he I m ed B i ba e begi die a U i e i f Q ee la d a d I ec g i ed ha I had bee i al a d egi al Q ee la d a d f m he e b i l a challe ge ha came i h ha i g f a h a d g i g h gh b h a d al he he hi g f ick a d hea m a d ai a ake challe ge l i h ha b al ha i g a g ide d g a ell. I h gh if I e he e i ill be e e e i e f a g kid b i l a fi ime j b a d d i g a U i e i . I h gh h g d ill i be ha e me f i a ce. I a ached he - a I e a e ec i e i a a ach he big ga i a i he NRMA, FAI all he a i la ge i a ce i i i . I hei h gh a d i ie b i l aki g e i a ce a a a ic la jec . The e e f m all f hem a i ' b i e, i ' k, c a g idea, g kid, g a a i ' g i g ha e . Wha ' e f he bigge i a ce he e da i e i a ce. H I d ' kick m elf e e da . I lea ha le a a e ea l age i e d eam il he e e d. N aki g he ega i e belief f he i di id al a d , b aki g i di id al belief a d a i a d a ic la i ie . A I aid he had hi a cha ce climb E e e i 2005, I had a cha ce fl a la e a d Q ee la d f a ime. Agai , a challe ge he belief ha e le a d me, b h gh he c - il ' i f ma i a d e cce f ll did ha e h ee ea . I i 2009 I a i i ed c m e e da ci g i h he S a . A e i e challe ge f a e h i all bli d. Ne e ee da ce, a d k i g b i l h i ' a a ged. Pe ha he bigge challe ge a ha bei g a a e e e a chi g he h a ha i a li e ba d ca g a d ehea e i he di he e la a eake m ic a eake , b he ge he li e h a d i ' a li e ba d i ake a a hea i g a
15. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 15 ell. We had k i h a h le a ge f I e diffe e a f me ki g h gh h e ce e a d ha e bee all bli d b al ha i g a cha ce f ac al ac all hea i g he e he da ce a e a . We made i he fi al da ci g h gh he a b b i l e e i e le f da ci g, b he g h e had h gh he e ie . The a e a d eff i he ac al each da ce e ed i h da ci g i h he S a . F me ha j e a gh me a l ab m elf a d i he e e f he cha ge . The cha ge f h e de ig el e a d h e k i i h he I e a ge f a . We e e eali e he facial he a ac all h ld ha d a d a e i da ci g i h he a ha make a ma i e diffe e ce. A d e lea ed b i l ab a i lif , h he imi g ha k i hi he ac al lif c m e e he ac al e ie . A S e he aid I am a ch c la ie , I ha e bee a ch c la ie f e a decade. I a ' me hi g a a g kid ha I ld ac all g I'm g i g be a ch c la ie f he age a 35, i a el ab he ac al i . O e he ea e e e i g A alia, i e a i all , came lea ab ch c la e bei g able b a meme a a T- hi a gif e ea , f famil f ie d back he e, ch c la e a al a ea g - hi g e ea , g ea a ge h gh C m a d g . The i a e a d h e e i maki g a d de ig i g ch c la e. The fa ci a i g hi g ab ch c la e c me i ealm f he b i e g al a ell a h e de ig i h e le a d . E e iece f i di id al ch c la e had i a i g e . A d aff, a d c me , a d akeh lde . We all ha e he a i i g edie . H I k i h ha iece f ch c la e i c i icall
16. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 16 im a . F e am le, a iece f ch c la e f m he I C a i e diffe e f m Madaga ca a i i f m Ja a, Ve e ela. The ha e he a i b a d , he il he a e g i i . A d g a e a d c ffee, a d bacc . A h le a ge f a i f i a d ege able ill ha e hei a i g e el beca e f he il he ha e g . I ili e he a i g e acce a e he fla i hi he ac al ch c la e. We eed I e e l e h e i ie a d h e i g edie i aff, i a ic la jec , c me a d akeh lde h e ca make eall I e e a d he e g h ha e a e i g k i h. Wha a e he kill e . Wha a e he i g edie ha make a ic la ff i j he deg ee alifica i ce ifica e ha ac all alked i he ga i a i i h, ha a e hei a i , ha a e he i g edie ha make ha i di id al, ha i ac all g i g d i e he a i a d i i ia i e i hi he ac al I e b i e f he a ic la g I ca me hi g, a ec d l I ca i h me e e he e I g i i i i me hi g I ill e e eali icall e i m life ha ' a mi . I ca a mi i h me i m bag e e he e I g . I ' a f dame al l f me. The ea h , beca e he g ea hi g ab a mi i he alk i he ba h m i he m i g, a d gi e a g imace, i gi e e back. Whe alk i he ba h m i he m i g, a d I gi e i a mile, i gi e e back. Wha i i e ac l ha ge back. A i , i h m fell I e c m e i , a f m he ch c la e e ec i e, a hle e a d he ld, I eed ec g i e ha he a e i g i a d ha I'm i g i make e m i g edie , he a e, he ali , f m ch c la e i fa e i ha g ea e m b i l fell c m e i . I'm ki g i h akeh lde e e he l a d e ce i al c i e he e a ell, a d
17. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 17 maki g e ha b i l he ali i he e. F me, a I e a i di id al ki g i hi he b i e f maki g e e ca e a d make e he c me j b i l alki g i a e b i g ali d c , b al i ab he e e ie ce a ell. Make e e ell he behi d he de ig a ell a he I e a e f he ch c la e . I i ' me hi g ha ' hed b a machi e, he i h i ' ha d made, he e he a i i g edie c me f m. H e c me f m l cal he e a G ace ille. The li e f m S a h e, he gi ge f m B de im. Maki g e e ell he behi d he e e ie ce f he c me . If he c me ec g i e a ha ' behi d a d akeh lde a ell, beca e if ha e he ie i a de ig he j i ha j e a ell beca e he ill a make b i e g b l idi g i h he be ible ali b he c i e c i he e ce he ide a ell. A I aid h gh, he e a e ill me ama i g e ce i . We alk ab de ig I e he cha ge i de ig , he he i be f m a h ical e ec i e al f m a c be e ec i e he e ill al a be cha ge i he a e k i h he c me , akeh lde . B he e a e ill me I e e ce i he e am g he c mm i ab ha ca I e ca ' be achie ed. Ma ea ag I a ki g i Q ee S ee i he B i ba e ci a d I had a a he la ge b de m a m a d m d g i he lef ha d. I alked i a lif a d e i g a e a i he lif he e i h me. S I aid e calml , e icel , e c e me ld mi d e i g "g d" lea e. The e i m eme a d he b I aid i a bi l dl . I aid e c e me ld mi d j e i g "g d". Agai , m eme I ggled f a d i h he b de m a m a d j a ab hi he b he ice aid "I ill e i f ". I aid " I h gh
18. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 18 hea me". He aid, i ' al ead I h gh e e alki g he d g. The e a e a h le a ge ha a i e ce i e le ha e. The m e i e e i g e e ie ce he alk d he ad, f e b e le i he ee , beca e ha e a g ide d g e le a me a e a e e i a ia B a e a d g ch l gi . I a alki g d a d he Q ee S ee mall i B i ba e, i he i he m i g he g gi l ed me a d aid "e c e me". She aid "l k I a ecia e ca ' ee". I aid " ha k e m ch" he aid "I de if I ca ha e a feel f ". She a a e g a ac i e m del. The e a a g alki g a l g a he he h gh he ill d me hi g ab i . S e , e e da c me ac h e h le a ge f I e diffe e e e ie ce a d ac al i ie . F m ha I lea I e ab he fea i life a d f dame all he he i be f m climbi g E e e da ci g i h he S a c m e e a a a hle e, a ia hl i g fl i g la e , he I de el ed - e a e b i h h ee i di id al fea i life. Th ee. A d ha ' i . Th e h ee fea a e f dame al f cce a a h ma bei g. Th e h ee fea a e he fea f falli g. The fea f i la i . A d he fea f i e. E e he fea i lea . S he fea f falli g eache lea h alk a h ma bei g . O he i e he ake k ee a d a d , h i g i b aki g he e e . Tha ' ha make lea h alk a h ma bei g . The fea f i la i i a fea f bei g able ee c mm i ie ge he a d ha fea f i la i make e e a ia e a d c me ge he de el c mm i ie . The fea f i e b i l i a e e f da ge a d , he he i i h gh m , fi e a h le a ge f diffe e fea f m i e ha e lea .
19. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 19 H e e , e e he fea i lea . I ca ha k m a e a a e ea l age h did ' a "he li e a e all bli d, d ' g he e a d ide a bike d ' g he e a d b l a c icke ball". I a "ge he e, gi e i a g a d le ' ee h fa ac all ge ". H e e ma a e a hei child alk i he ki che ill a , "he li e d ' ch he h la e migh b elf". Tha i lea . M m a "d ' ch a k ife migh c elf' he fea f k ife i he lea . We lea he fea f cce , he fea f fail e. All h e hi g f fail e, fea , cce , a e lea a a e ea l age a d h e de el a d g h e a ic la fea h gh life. We ha e i he h ee fea , he h ee f dame al fea , e ca cha ge a d g h e lea fea f m a e ea l age. F me b i l a d I e he i ie I' e had, al a ha bee ab e c mi g h e lea ed fea . I c ld e ea il a li e m g ide ill me i a a ked ca ee , i bec me a I lea fea . F me a a e i h a h ical di abili i i ab eachi g kid c mi g h gh h a e bli d, l i i h ha e a a ic la di abili ab he i ie he ca e. I i ece a il a e - i b i l a ec ea i al ac i i b i e I e de i e he ha e achie e a g al he ha e achie e h gh hei life. A i i am g he e le a d me a ell. If ha e a e i I migh ha d back S e he , if ha e a e i ld like a k, I e f m m elf ma be f m a ch c la ie e ec i e f m a b i e e ec i e. STEVE BATY: Tha k m ch. Tha ' a de f l c llec i f ie . I ha e a . W de f l. I ha e e e i la c me h gh fa hich I ill a k. If a e f i . S hi c me f m Sakib h a k , ha ld be e m -ha e ad ice f a la ge
20. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 20 eam f hem ha e a g h mi d- e ? GERRARD GOSENS: I hi k f m he a e c mm ica e a a eam i f dame al a d f e I ge a ked b e le h a li e ha c l d ee a a bli d e ? I ee hi g a all. S e le a me ee black. The fi be able ee black m fi ee hi e. S bei g all bli d i he ab e ce f ha f e am le, hi i e ha d f e le de a d i ha f e am le if I m ha d , he e i hi g i be ee . I ' black, i ' hi e, i i hi g a all. H e e , if I aid h ld de c ibe he c l ed, me e le migh a , he li e , ed i h . S me e le migh a ed i a g . The migh a ed i l e. O e migh a f e am le bl e i c l. The migh a hi e i f ee i g fl ff e. O e hi g ha i eall f dame al i a eam i ha e ca be l ki g a d c me , i i c i , a g al, a d e all ee he c l ed a d e a e eei g hi ed g al a d ' e eei g i a l e a d I'm eei g i a h . O a a g . We all ca ee he c l i a e , e diffe e ligh . S i ' f dame all im a h e c mm ica e he g al a d all e ake he a ic la feeli g, he e e ie ce, i h he ac al g al. O he i e e all ill be l ki g a he hi e e fl ff a i ce a d ee i i a e diffe e le. Al h e I e ee a d h e c mm ica e ha i a I aid ea lie i he f e e c e c mm ica e he eam. We ca l k a b i l he eg la i f ha b i ma be ab he eg la i f he ac al mea i g, i i h e a d ha e c mm ica e i ha a ic la mea i g hich i im a a ell. S , if I am I e idi g ha i d , f ac all maki g e e ec g i e he fac f life ha c me al g i a a ic la j e a d e c mi g h e i di id al fea b al l ki g h e ca ai
21. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 21 ha g h i he a . Wha a e he i e ca make e eam f e am le e ca ha e e le h call i ick. We ca ha e e le h eed ake me e al lea e a al lea e ime a ea he e ce ill be a ailable. Wha a e he i ha e ca g , ha a e he i ie e ca ake ? I ime e ca e ha i lace me f ce e . A e he e a e ac all b i g i he d c ? F e am le, i m ch c la e b i e , a a f m elli g b i l he i di id al ch c la e f COVID I b gh i a ch c la e fi aid ki . I c e e e hi g. C e he c a i , i i fa a ic. We ha e f e am le i ide he ch c la e fi aid ki , i ea le. Tha ma be beca e a e feeli g a bi gh a d he edge . The e i a h le a ge f diffe e h ma hei g e i h he ch c la e fi aid ki . S i i b i gi g i h e a i i , li e e e ie ce , he e ca ell a d maki g e i hi he eam a I aid ea lie i he ed e a e eei g e a e all eei g i a h , l e a g . We a e all e e ie ce a d c mm ica i g i i he ame a . STEVE BATY: Tha ' g ea . Tha k . I ha e a he e i h gh f m J h a d I ill ead hi . Ve ba im. Y a e a l i i a i al. A d hi ha bee b illia . Wha i he m mem able e e ie ce ha e had a d h ? A d if e e gi e e iece f ad ice c m a ie h a e de ig i g f di abili ie , ha ld ha be? GERRARD GOSENS: M - I e, e e ie ce a a a hle e i ' f , i ha hil climbi g E e e a a maj achie eme , I hi k f me e e j c mmi i g Da ci g i he S a hil i ma be a eali h , i a e c mi g m e al challe ge I ha e e e ee
22. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 22 me hi g I ha e e e e e ie ced. A d i e ie 3 I had d 20 ec d f i di id al da ci g Da ci g i h he S a . N , 20 ec d ma eem like a l g ime i di id all . B f a e h i all bli d I had idea if I a faci g he igh a , he e he came a e e, he he I a ac all e e d i g he da ce c ec l . S i a eall j m i g i he h le ealm f b i l maki g e ha I c ld e c me e ha a lea ed fea f ac all emba a i g m elf li e ele i i b ide f b i l he cha ce e e e m c , e ha e e e f he m e i e e i g m me f me a i 1996 I e he Pa al m ic Game a d hi g e back I e m ea l c mme f . I k i he e i g ce em , a d I k e i a ' bei g b adca back A alia I had he ld m bile b ick h e, a h e a d I alked i he e i g ce em f 1996 Pa al m ic Game I had he m bile h e he e i h me a d I had a f ie d h ked i ABC adi , he a g me , I did me li e c mme a f alm a h f he e i g ce em f he 1996 A la a Pa al m ic Game . The f hi g a e e called ABC a d aid h he hell i a bli d e de c ibi g a e i g ce em . S e, I had me e i he ea de c ibi g he me b ha e le e e aki g back, he e e e j i g he e. The e e e j i g he e e ie ce f ha a a hle e a feeli g a he e e alki g, i ac al fac i ' a lie d ' alk i he e i g ce em , i ac al fac a e fl a . Y a e icked b e le d f e i e c d a d fl a . I a alki g i he e i g e ce em . F a eam ha ' l ki g ake i i cl i de ig f e le i h a di abili I hi k i i l ki g f a d maki g e he ha e i c a ed he de ig ea l . I ee a l f mi ake a d e made he e e le ill de ig me hi g, he hi k h ca e make i acce ible. Beca e f e am le, igh , 20% f all eb i e a e
23. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 23 acce ible. O l . S e a e mi i g a d ma ea ag G a B e f m T ea Ca i g me i a d aid I'm mi i g 20% f he la i h ca c me a d e j , e e ie ce a he ca i . I e i he e a d did a a di f he ca i . I had e le, la i g f e am le I had a black Jack able, I had he c ie la i g he ca d game f me. The e a i cl i . The e a a h le a ge f hi g ha came f he e e ie ce b f me he e de ig me hi g e ake a e i e c me ba e, e cl di g beca e e hi k he ca ' d i . I e d email ff m g ide - he e i a Sc a h i g e e ie ce. The hi k I'm c a . I a d i . I ' ab i cl i beca e if d ' de c me ba e. D ' de ig he c me e e ie ce ab a iche ma ke . Make e he c me ba e ha he i a ici a e. STEVE BATY: Tha ' g ea . Tha k . We ill a he e. We ill back bei g a a e dee hich ill ff mic a d came a j a e a a e. B f e e e lea e j i me ha ki g Ge a d f ha de f l e e a i . Tha k m ch. GERRARD GOSENS: Tha k . STEVE BATY: While e ge ead i ch e , a c le f hi g ha I eglec ed d i m e ci eme ge da h ee a ed, a d m im a l I eglec ed ack ledge he adi i al e f he la d hich e all li e a d k. I c me da f m he la d f he Gadigal e le f he E a Na i . I ld like a m e ec hei elde a , e e a d eme gi g. I al a ed ha k he h a e i la igh . We had a g am f e e ha a i he e e i g la igh . We