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Gerrard Gosens - Change is Constant, Growth is Optional

Gerrard Gosens - Change is Constant, Growth is Optional

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August 26, 2021
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  1. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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  2. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    STEVE BATY: Welc me, ha k a d I ill h he a e
    ead g .
    GERRARD GOSENS: Fi I ill la a e h P e P i
    e e a i e ill ha e he c ee a d lea e feel f ee
    he l me la PC.
    STEVE BATY: E celle e .
    GERRARD GOSENS: Tha k .
    STEVE BATY: A he m me e ca ' ee ha e e a i . We ha e
    c ee a he m me .
    GERRARD GOSENS: M a l gie . G d m i g agai a d I hi k ha
    ide I e a e h a h i me f he i ie
    I' e had e he a ca ee b h i b i e , i , a d me f he
    e e al i ie I' e had e j , f m a e ea l age igh
    h gh me m e i e e i g hi g i climbi g e E e e a d
    me f he m e eali i f 'Da ci g i h he S a ' a d he
    i ie . F me a a a hle e b i l e ca celeb a e ha
    i c e l hel i g i he Pa al m ic Game hich i c e l f he
    e eek . M elf a a a hle e, I had a i a i f bei g i T k
    2021, el beca e f COVID a d he i ge he la
    h ee alif i g e e . P e e ed me f m ha i g c m e e a T k
    b a d g e he C mm eal h Game . Tha ' he e I hi k i
    lead he i f m e e a i da , hich i cha ge i c a ,
    b g h i i al.

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  3. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
    Page 3
    A d i ' l ki g a b i l a he cha ge ha a e c a i
    li e a d h e e ca ake he g h a a ge f diffe e
    i ie I hi k I lea ha a a e ea l age f m m life i al
    a d egi al Q ee la d a d ha i g b h k a e call he fac f
    he hi g ha ca g a a a d a a e g kid I h gh ha fac
    f life ha e e i a e i a half e d
    i a I h gh ha came i h he ai f bei g a e g child
    a d i a ' il ha e fi da f ima ch l he e I eali ed
    hi g e e me ha e diffe e .
    The eache had a e i a e h gh f ge i g id f he
    e e e g f de a d aff a d k d he al a d
    he e e e e a ked la f he al, b i g ff he e e g . Of
    he la ghi g a d giggli g f de a d he al all me make
    e I k e he e he e e a d he al b he e fi la I
    e all me e e i gle g al he al a d i h ed me I a
    e diffe e he de a d aff a d I hi k f m he e he cha ge
    had kick i e ickl be able g a a de , l i hi
    he cla m b al he e he i g a e a a ell.
    A d i came i h me I e i e challe gi g cha ge , i a e e f
    h I a ed l k i h he de b al de el
    eam k a d me, he eam k i hi he cla m, he eam
    k ha cc ed he e he la g d he he i be d i g
    ece l ch ime a d he la i g diffe e f m f . Tha f
    me a I e a g ea a i i i h I lea e m
    ca ee , h gh high ch l, h gh i e i , a d h gh m a i
    bjec i e i life.
    I hi k f me f dame all a ab he eam k, he eam
    k I b il i la i g , he he i be f e am le i c cli g a d m
    b he ' bike i f f me, de el i g a mbe f diffe e hich I

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  4. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
    Page 4
    ha e h gh m e i e ca ee . A I aid, i c me ea lie i h fac f
    life hi g ca a d ill g a a . De i e be eff hi g ill
    ac all ha e a d m e f e ha b i l f he e h i
    all bli d. Th e fac f life ca be im l he e h i i j ed
    ell a d h i e ec f a ai i g e i I e he i e
    i ic hi g ab m diag i all he hi g I ha e bee g ided b m
    fell eamma e i ha I e e had a calf m cle a
    ham i g, all m i j ie , e , ha e bee beca e f m g ide e
    a d he ha e me i a ked ca , ee , , le a he li g e
    .
    Tha c me i h he ai f bei g a all bli d di a ce e .
    Th gh he life h gh high ch l a d ima ch l a he
    challe ge b eak d he e ce i a d a S e he efe ed
    bef e i de ig , I hi k ha b i g me he e ec i e I e he
    hil h f cha ge c a g h i i al he e e h a d h
    e de ig I e h e cha ge ha ill mee eed f he f e.
    Me, i High Sch l a a e ea l age b i l ab hi ime, eam
    a d me maki g e ha a he e, b h i e all i h he
    aff a d he de b al e e all , i me f he ec ea i al
    ac i i ie I i e ded achie e e.
    The high ch l e he ea , ma ked hei la e a d al
    i h li e a d he li e ld i e ea e he g a a d di ca i g la ge
    be ee he la e a d m ch i a ea feel a
    a d he al. I ai ed a d ai ed a d ai ed he al, i a
    ea a d ce I became ed he e la k e e ac l
    he e I a i he al a ime I a able a e i e la m
    a d ff I e
    I came m ch l ca i al, I had bee ai i g f he 8 a d 4, a d I
    k e ha b i l i a 400 i i a ic la l ick a d i i im a

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  5. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    e abli h a e ea l lead. M ch l a 400 e e e i g m a ic la
    h e, I a e kee e abli h a e ea l lead, ha a I
    c ld be clea f m he fell e i he ac al ch l. Tha e
    a d lid, g a d he 100m ma k, hi g e e l ki g g d. I
    c ld hea he ffi g a d a i g f de behi d me b I a he
    200m, ame f hi g. Tha 3 4m behi d me. Thi i he I a
    k e i a im a I d g a dee a I c ld il I hea d he c eam
    he c d, e h gh he fi i hi g el a d ac he li e a d
    c m le ed he fa e 400 Ye High Sch l had e e , e e ec ded.
    I e i e a ga l ca a a he ime i ill e e ,
    e e be b ke . The ea bei g beca e f he 205 mi ima, I k a
    lef -ha d . I c igh ac he middle f he al, ac he li e
    a d c m le ed 400m i a ima el 42 ec d . I h ed he
    de a d aff ha he e a illi g make a a em de i e
    b i l he challe ge , a e a ed ha e a la a hei
    a ic la di abili . S me ime i i e im a ec g i e ha
    e e i gle e i he ld d e ha e a di abili , he he i i bei g
    all bli d, g d a he , g d a ma h g d
    a c ki g e e e ha a a ic la di abili a d h e k i h
    ha a ic la di abili de e d e al cce e h e
    b i l ada a d k i h he cha ge ge a d ha a ic la
    di abili .
    A ime h gh, he m challe gi g m me e e ide he
    ch l g d he e b i l he e ec ed a e f c e ill
    ake - ill ha e . Whe e he I e ld e ai , he e a e
    e ec i g h e hi g ha ill a i e.
    We f e g d Ye he beach he e a d ha e a c l
    ef e hi g im a h mme ' da , ch l h lida . The idal fl i
    i e b a ial. A ime he a e i la i g a he ba e f he ie a

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  6. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    ime e fl i g he . S a b i l g kid I ld i he
    edge f he ie , feel he a e i h m fee bel he ee , h
    k i g h fa h high he a e a a d I ld e l l lide
    i . M ma e ld j m i he a e a d I ld hea a ice he
    edge l l lidi g i a g a i ake h ld a e i i g he edge f
    he ie , m b a d h g ck a ail. I k e ac l f a fe
    ec d h e -ma feel , m b d a m ch f he h , m
    h i ed a d I e i he a e . The h ee di i c i e e
    he e f a e all bli d, k i g h ha ee he m
    emba a i g hi g, me bei g all aked h fi d a el
    he beach a d he e he ha d .
    De i e he be a em , hi g ca a d ill g a a . A I aid
    he a e he fac f life he e hi g ill ha e . A d h e c e i h
    h e a ic la fac f life i eall c i icall im a beca e b i l
    he ill be f amed i h e e i gle da f he life. I i e imila I
    e ha e call i d f a i de. Which i c i icall
    im a a a child, fi begi lea h alk, he ha e a fall
    a d he ge a d ha e a he alk a d he fall. The he i he
    ca e a d blame he l e ai . A ha i m m a d dad blame
    m m a d dad f l i c i he c i e il he e e all
    lea h alk a d he lea h .
    H e e a he g h gh hei a ic la i d f a i de
    c me i h he ial a d ib la i a I aid he fac f life hich ill
    h me m d a d g ime a he a ic la i d f a i de. The
    di a i me , he hea b eak , e e da , m hl ea l .
    Sadl I ha e ee a l f e le h ha e c llec ed hi m d a d
    g ime e hei e al i d f a i de a d he ha e died a
    a he age f 45, bee b ied a 85 beca e he h le i d f
    a i de i ch ked he l igh f ha i he ac al big ic e.

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  7. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    A d ha ' he e i ' eall im a , he he i be a dail e e
    e ha h l I e e ec i e make e e ha e a clea
    i d f a i de, a d ha e a e i g achie e. Beca e
    i a i ill a i e. A d a a e h i all bli d b i l he
    challe ge ill be ide m c l, ill ac all ha e a d
    maki g e e ha e he clea c a abili ee he g h f
    l ki g I e e, he he i be a ch l, a ic la
    b i e e , a ic la e al g al a ell.
    I g ad a ed h gh high ch l a d bega ki g i Ce al
    Q ee la d, f me he challe ge e e I e de ig a
    e ce i al challe ge am g he b i e c mm i a d i i am g
    he c mm i f egi al Q ee la d. T b eak d e ce i
    he had ab a e h a all bli d. We b ed a
    Me cede c e ible, e g a f m he l cal e i e gea a
    he R ckham lice a i , e had m fi g ide d g J e , e
    laced him i he a e ge ea f a Me cede c e ible, m elf
    i he d i e ' ea , I had he fi f age f he R ckham M i g
    B lle i a fe decade ag he headli e ead "bli d e bli ke
    lice ce Ge a d G e a d g ide d g ecei e d i e ' lice ce. J e d e
    ba k f lef , a ba k f igh a d a el f . Ab 65% f
    e le Ce al Q ee la d h ead he 1 A il, belie ed i
    a d e had h e call all da he lice a i , he e a e ,
    a ki g h a d g e e e A gle Pa ki g a h le li f e i e .
    I a a g ea la gh, i a a g ea cha ce b eak d e ce i f
    me e h a b i l all bli d.
    I lea i g high ch l a ell a ki g i b i e I had me
    fai l la ge g al e a di a ce e . I ld challe ge m elf hile
    li i g i Ye a d ha i g g ide d g acce a he ime bei g i a
    em e a ea I ld kee e f he ad, e f he g a el

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  8. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    a d f m m h e he a k hich i ab 8km he e a d back. I
    ld hea he am a e g a d he f g, he e i a ig , I ld
    a d a d c me back aigh back m a ic la h e. I a
    i g h e, I e he e ie I ha e g h a a i di id al.
    M g al a be a fi e i he da f he S d e Melb e
    We field , he e d f Yia i K be he fi bli d e i
    he S d e a d We field . Tha came i h h ical a d me al
    e a a i . A a g 17-18- ea - ld I l cked he c age a d
    me i h he eam a E gge a ba ack e f he fi ig al egime
    emba ked he g al I a l ki g achie e, he k i a a
    a ic la e e ci e a d emba ked m fi e e maj
    l a-ma a h b i g f m P D gla he G ld C a .
    A d c m le e ha i ime, ba icall f m N h Q ee la d,
    P D gla - Cai he G ld C a fi e ime . I ha 2,000km
    j e , e had a eam f a I aid 35 ldie a d ma f hem e e
    m g ide ail , e e h i , cam c e a d e f he j e d
    he Q ee la d c a li e. C mi g ac a h le a ge f a i
    e ce i , a i de , a d challe ge e had face. N l a a eam
    b al i am g he a i egi al c mm i ie a d d he
    ea e eab a d.
    The e e e me i e ema kable e ce i e had I e
    cha ge e ha ime. R i g i a lace called Clea ie a lace
    called Macka a d R ckham , a mall ca a a a k- e I ld
    me ha mma i e a i a a e f he bli d beca e hi g a all
    ee he e. We d bled hei c mm i a e a i clea ie . The
    he f he Clea ie ca a a a k lled me hi e he
    a ic la fi cca i , aid M G e i i g ea ha e he e,
    g ea eff i g f m Cai P D gla he G ld C a he aid
    I ld like gi e a fe e i . He a me d i he e i e

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  9. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    e a d f he e i e h he ga e me 60 ca d . Tha a fi e, I
    ga e hem a a b adl f he e i e h he a m fi ge ac
    e e i gle ca d beca e he a med m fi ge e e e i i e I
    c ld feel ic e he ca d. Tha ' hi e ce i f ha b aille a
    all ab f a e h a all bli d.
    I c m le ed ha fi e ime . 2,000km j e . I a ead
    b h me all a d h icall c m e e, e iall i he S d e
    Melb e We field . I e e ed, I had m eam, I had he e i me ,
    I a ead g . Tha ea he ca celled he S d e Melb e
    We field . N l did he ca cel i , i a e e be held agai .
    F me h gh, a e ea a d I c ld ha e i e ea il c ide ed
    ha gi g he b hi ki g, ell fi e ime , Cai B i ba e i I
    e a g ea achie eme a d e i ed I e e c mf abl i
    he e e f m e al g al e ec i e b f me i a ab
    ec g i i g ha cce i a j e , e e a de i a i . Tha i g
    ha e g al, ha e a ic la i .
    I ed m ha d Pa al m ic Game . We e e e A alia
    a fa h ee Pa al m ic Game i di a ce i g. Fi e, 10 ma a h
    a ell a he 1500 i 2008.
    F me h gh, ha eam f g ide e a d me a c i icall
    im a . A e ha e eam , he he i be i g eam
    eam i b i e , h e I e i di id al , aff membe , all
    la e diffe e le . The c me he le i h e diffe e
    ali ie a d e f m diffe e ac i . S g ide a e he e f he
    ec e , me a e he e f hill e a d me el f
    c m e i i . The all ha e hei i di id al g al a a e e e a i e f m
    a ic la eam. Whil b i l he e i g he ac al
    c m e i i a i he ac al ace, ma ge he acc lade , h e
    i di id al h la i he backg d, a i he hill e a d ec e

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  10. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    a e j a im a . A d h I c mm ica e a d h e k
    i h hem all i a e m ch i di id ali ic le beca e he all ha e
    hei a ie a h k i h ha .
    Whe I g i g i h a i di id al, he he i i he ad
    he ack, e e a h iece f h elace, a d I ha e i i m ha d, I
    ha e a mbe f diffe e iece f g ide e. All a e diffe e
    le g h . F m e h h gh he e l g. The ea h I
    ha e h e diffe e le g h f e i beca e l b i l f m a
    g idi g e ec i e i ' e im a b h e ac all c mm ica e.
    S i a ma a h b i l he l ge he di a ce a i he l ge he
    jec , he l ge g al e a e l ki g achie e, c mm ica i ca be
    d e e a aged e e ce. I ca be d e a e l g a ,
    b i l e ca ac all ha e f e e e e f c mm ica i
    beca e i ' a l g jec , b i l he e i ime , he e i l ime i
    a e e f he e hi g ma be c c ed, i ill be d c , i c ld be
    he ac al jec i ma ake eek m h . I a ac al jec ha
    g e f ea . A i a ma a h f he 42.2.
    Whe e i c me d b i l a ha e a h iece f h elace
    he e alm ha d a e back back. Tha ' b i l i a 400
    200. The ea h i ' c i ical be h i beca e he
    c mm ica i ha be ick, ha be c i e , a d ha be a id.
    The e i al a ha c mm ica i g i g be ee m elf a d m g ide
    e a he ame i h a jec e ide. I ha be b i l
    he h e jec , m e c i ical jec , b i l he m e i k ha
    g e i i a i 400m i m e i k beca e a I e mi di ec i ,
    a fal e e ca mea ha half a ec d c ld l e a ac al ace. S
    ha ' h c mm ica i m be e ick, a d e eliable. Beca e
    i i cl e a ha d.
    B f me b i l i h m g ide e , c me d

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  11. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    aff a ell a d h h e i g edie ca la i ha e a e
    i g e. I ha e g e f m he A alia Pa al m ic
    c mmi ee back i 1993. A d f me i a ab a i g ha jec
    f m he back bed m a h me i h a la c m e . If had aid
    me a a g kid I ld begi he Pa al m ic c mmi ee i ha a
    I ld ha e had idea b i l he jec , i came d he
    a i , he g al a d he ac al i . Beca e h gh he
    cha ge a d maki g ha cha ge ha e he g h came i h b i l
    e h he c mmi ee k a d A alia a d i g he
    eam
    We k eam f a hle e i 1996, A la a Pa al m ic Game .
    The eam de i e he i e laced ec d he medal all . I ac al fac
    e e e i ed a he he e la da im l beca e a mbe
    f ela eam e did ' ha e. F m he e b i l e g S d e
    2000, A he , a d he e g he 2021 a e a e he e . B i
    ha h le d f he i c me i h i I e he 18 diffe e
    . A d ma agi g h e 18 diffe e e ec a i , hei le ,
    a d he cha ge i l de ig f he ac al e i me ha g e i h
    ha , a i f e am le he heelchai , he leg m h he e , ce
    he e , he e i cha ge k i h he a hle e, he f di g le el a d
    f d a d e ce e i ed h e i di id al a hle e a ell
    a h e eam a ell.
    F me h gh, i ha j e a ab ec g i i g ha I
    e i g edie e im a . I bega he Pa al m ic c mmi ee
    a d ked i h hem f 10 ea b h a he e ec i e ffice a ell
    a a a hle e. B ide h e g al I ha e a cha ce be i i ed
    climb E e e i 2003 a d 2005 cceedi g i 2005. Tha a
    i g ge he a e diffe e eam a d h e eam membe a e all
    i el diffe e i a i a i a d h he e e l ki g

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  12. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    climb e E e e . Whe I did ' a ecia e, f me i a ' ab
    m eam, i a ab he fac f life ha g i h i . I a ' he
    al i de, i a ' he mi 20 deg ee , i a ' he i m
    e i me i a he m e im li ic hi g ha came i h f e am le
    g i g he ile . Diggi g ha h le a d h i g like hell aim i e
    g d. M m al able iece f e i me E e e c m $5. I
    a ' m d jacke , i a ' m c am i a ' he i i elf, he
    $5 a e a ack bel a d ha ack bell a ied a climbe '
    back ack . I ga e me ca , eliable c mm ica i h gh he ak
    bell a ed me b i l he cha ce f a ki g he e he e e a d k
    me he mmi f E e e . I had he lea e f ha i g di e i h i
    Edm d Hilla i 2003. Wha e le d ' ec g i e he he climbed
    E e e back i 1953 hi eam a ' 15 e le, i ac al fac hi eam
    a ' 100 e le. Hi e i e eam ha hel ed him mmi E e e i
    1953 alled 2,000 e le. I k 2,000 e le ge he f
    E e e .
    I ' he ame i i , i i cl i , a d de ig a d i cha ge.
    I i ' ab e i di id al, i ake a e i e eam. A d hil ma
    celeb a e he e le h celeb a ed i 1953, m al ec g i e
    h e eam k eam ha a e behi d i i di id al
    a d h e ec g i e hem i al i e im a . I ca
    i h me e e he e I g a iece f E e e . I ca a iece f E e e
    i h me e e he e I g beca e i i a c a emi de , l j
    ab he fac f life b i e e m ai e climb he e ill be h e
    li le hicc , he fall , e c me ac a ic la j e . The
    e ha a e f e ide a ic la c l. S make e a I
    aid ea lie i maki g e e ha e ha i d f a i de e clea
    a d ha e a e l ki g achie e.
    I ha e ma e a ma e lec i g he h m ed he U i ed

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  13. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    S a e he b gh him elf a m ai bike. J i ed a l cal cl b, he
    eeke d he e f he fi ime i h he cl b, af e he fi fe
    h he had i e a fe fall , g i g a d d he m ai . The
    ed f a h b eak a d e m e e e ie ced m ai bike came
    T m a d aid, h a e fi di g i . He aid b i l i ' a bi
    gh a d e ha b he e d f he l g eeke d I ill ge he ha g f
    i . The e e ie ced membe aid T m, li e he a e g i g
    a d d me f he l e , ha a e l ki g a ? A d T m aid,
    b i l I'm l ki g a he ck a d he ee . A d he m e
    e e ie ced m ai bike aid, ell ha ' bigge mi ake. A d
    T m aid ha d mea ? A d he m e e e ie ced m ai bike
    aid, ell h ld be l ki g a he ga i be ee he ck a d he
    ee . A d f e e e d l k a he ac al b acle a he ha he
    ac al i ie .
    I lea ed ha f m a e ea l age he I b il m fi h e a d
    g i g 'The C ie -Mail' came i a d i e ie ed me beca e i m
    ki che l ge m I a k ligh he I b il he h e. 'The
    C ie -Mail' e e I e i e am ed ha a e h a all
    bli d ld be i g a k ligh i hi h e. I ema ked he
    j ali I a ' i g a k ligh i he h e f m elf, I a
    i g i i he h e f he e e h b he h e. L ki g
    f a d, l ki g a h e diffe e de ig , h be ld b i l be
    m e f he e ac all b i g he h e. Tha ' ha I ied d
    i de ig i g all m a ic la jec l ki g f a d l he eam
    ha i ge he b al he a ic la jec beca e I eed
    b i l c m leme ha ma k a ell a ki g i he
    f e a ell.
    If a k me ab b i l cha ge, a d g h, f me i a
    ab ec g i i g e f m bigge e e eg e a a g kid. A he

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  14. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    age f 18-19 he I m ed B i ba e begi die a U i e i f
    Q ee la d a d I ec g i ed ha I had bee i al a d egi al
    Q ee la d a d f m he e b i l a challe ge ha came i h
    ha i g f a h a d g i g h gh b h a d al he he hi g f
    ick a d hea m a d ai a ake challe ge l i h ha b
    al ha i g a g ide d g a ell. I h gh if I e he e i ill be
    e e e i e f a g kid b i l a fi ime j b a d d i g a
    U i e i . I h gh h g d ill i be ha e me f i a ce.
    I a ached he - a I e a e ec i e i a a ach he big
    ga i a i he NRMA, FAI all he a i la ge i a ce i i i .
    I hei h gh a d i ie b i l aki g e i a ce
    a a a ic la jec . The e e f m all f hem a i '
    b i e, i ' k, c a g idea, g kid, g a a i '
    g i g ha e . Wha ' e f he bigge i a ce he e da i e
    i a ce. H I d ' kick m elf e e da . I lea ha le a a
    e ea l age i e d eam il he e e d.
    N aki g he ega i e belief f he i di id al a d ,
    b aki g i di id al belief a d a i a d a ic la
    i ie .
    A I aid he had hi a cha ce climb E e e i 2005, I had a
    cha ce fl a la e a d Q ee la d f a ime. Agai , a challe ge
    he belief ha e le a d me, b h gh he c - il ' i f ma i
    a d e cce f ll did ha e h ee ea . I i 2009 I a
    i i ed c m e e da ci g i h he S a . A e i e challe ge f a
    e h i all bli d. Ne e ee da ce, a d k i g b i l
    h i ' a a ged. Pe ha he bigge challe ge a ha bei g a a e
    e e a chi g he h a ha i a li e ba d ca g a d ehea e
    i he di he e la a eake m ic a eake , b he
    ge he li e h a d i ' a li e ba d i ake a a hea i g a

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  15. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    ell. We had k i h a h le a ge f I e diffe e a f
    me ki g h gh h e ce e a d ha e bee all bli d b
    al ha i g a cha ce f ac al ac all hea i g he e he da ce
    a e a .
    We made i he fi al da ci g h gh he a b b i l
    e e i e le f da ci g, b he g h e had h gh he e ie .
    The a e a d eff i he ac al each da ce e
    ed i h da ci g i h he S a .
    F me ha j e a gh me a l ab m elf a d i he e e f he
    cha ge . The cha ge f h e de ig el e a d h e k i
    i h he I e a ge f a . We e e eali e he facial he
    a ac all h ld ha d a d a e i da ci g i h he
    a ha make a ma i e diffe e ce. A d e lea ed b i l ab
    a i lif , h he imi g ha k i hi he ac al lif c m e e
    he ac al e ie .
    A S e he aid I am a ch c la ie , I ha e bee a ch c la ie f
    e a decade. I a ' me hi g a a g kid ha I ld ac all
    g I'm g i g be a ch c la ie f he age a 35, i a el ab he
    ac al i . O e he ea e e e i g A alia, i e a i all ,
    came lea ab ch c la e bei g able b a meme a a
    T- hi a gif e ea , f famil f ie d back he e, ch c la e a
    al a ea g - hi g e ea , g ea a ge h gh C m
    a d g . The i a e a d h e e i maki g a d
    de ig i g ch c la e.
    The fa ci a i g hi g ab ch c la e c me i ealm f
    he b i e g al a ell a h e de ig i h e le a d .
    E e iece f i di id al ch c la e had i a i g e . A d
    aff, a d c me , a d akeh lde . We all ha e he
    a i i g edie . H I k i h ha iece f ch c la e i c i icall

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  16. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    im a . F e am le, a iece f ch c la e f m he I C a i e
    diffe e f m Madaga ca a i i f m Ja a, Ve e ela. The ha e he
    a i b a d , he il he a e g i i . A d g a e a d c ffee, a
    d bacc . A h le a ge f a i f i a d ege able ill ha e hei
    a i g e el beca e f he il he ha e g .
    I ili e he a i g e acce a e he fla i hi he
    ac al ch c la e. We eed I e e l e h e i ie a d
    h e i g edie i aff, i a ic la jec ,
    c me a d akeh lde h e ca make eall I e e a d
    he e g h ha e a e i g k i h. Wha a e he kill
    e . Wha a e he i g edie ha make a ic la ff i
    j he deg ee alifica i ce ifica e ha ac all alked i
    he ga i a i i h, ha a e hei a i , ha a e he i g edie
    ha make ha i di id al, ha i ac all g i g d i e he a i
    a d i i ia i e i hi he ac al I e b i e f he a ic la
    g
    I ca me hi g, a ec d l I ca i h me e e he e I g i
    i i i me hi g I ill e e eali icall e i m life ha ' a mi . I
    ca a mi i h me i m bag e e he e I g . I ' a f dame al
    l f me. The ea h , beca e he g ea hi g ab a mi i
    he alk i he ba h m i he m i g, a d gi e a g imace,
    i gi e e back. Whe alk i he ba h m i he m i g, a d
    I gi e i a mile, i gi e e back. Wha i i e ac l ha
    ge back. A i , i h m fell I e c m e i , a f m he
    ch c la e e ec i e, a hle e a d he ld, I eed ec g i e
    ha he a e i g i a d ha I'm i g i make e m
    i g edie , he a e, he ali , f m ch c la e i fa e i ha
    g ea e m b i l fell c m e i . I'm ki g i h akeh lde
    e e he l a d e ce i al c i e he e a ell, a d

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  17. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    maki g e ha b i l he ali i he e.
    F me, a I e a i di id al ki g i hi he b i e f
    maki g e e ca e a d make e he c me j b i l
    alki g i a e b i g ali d c , b al i ab he e e ie ce a
    ell. Make e e ell he behi d he de ig a ell a he I
    e a e f he ch c la e . I i ' me hi g ha ' hed b a
    machi e, he i h i ' ha d made, he e he a i i g edie
    c me f m. H e c me f m l cal he e a G ace ille. The li e
    f m S a h e, he gi ge f m B de im. Maki g e e ell he
    behi d he e e ie ce f he c me . If he c me ec g i e a
    ha ' behi d a d akeh lde a ell, beca e if ha e
    he ie i a de ig he j i ha j e a ell beca e he
    ill a make b i e g b l idi g i h he
    be ible ali b he c i e c i he e ce he ide
    a ell.
    A I aid h gh, he e a e ill me ama i g e ce i . We alk
    ab de ig I e he cha ge i de ig , he he i be f m a
    h ical e ec i e al f m a c be e ec i e he e ill al a be
    cha ge i he a e k i h he c me , akeh lde . B
    he e a e ill me I e e ce i he e am g he
    c mm i ab ha ca I e ca ' be achie ed. Ma ea
    ag I a ki g i Q ee S ee i he B i ba e ci a d I had a a he
    la ge b de m a m a d m d g i he lef ha d. I alked i a lif
    a d e i g a e a i he lif he e i h me. S I aid e calml ,
    e icel , e c e me ld mi d e i g "g d" lea e. The e
    i m eme a d he b I aid i a bi l dl . I aid e c e
    me ld mi d j e i g "g d". Agai , m eme I
    ggled f a d i h he b de m a m a d j a ab hi
    he b he ice aid "I ill e i f ". I aid " I h gh

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  18. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    hea me". He aid, i ' al ead I h gh e e alki g he
    d g.
    The e a e a h le a ge ha a i e ce i e le ha e. The m e
    i e e i g e e ie ce he alk d he ad, f e b
    e le i he ee , beca e ha e a g ide d g e le a me
    a e a e e i a ia B a e a d g ch l gi . I a alki g d
    a d he Q ee S ee mall i B i ba e, i he i he m i g he
    g gi l ed me a d aid "e c e me". She aid "l k I a ecia e
    ca ' ee". I aid " ha k e m ch" he aid "I de if I ca
    ha e a feel f ". She a a e g a ac i e m del. The e a a
    g alki g a l g a he he h gh he ill d me hi g ab
    i . S e , e e da c me ac h e h le a ge f I e
    diffe e e e ie ce a d ac al i ie .
    F m ha I lea I e ab he fea i life a d f dame all
    he he i be f m climbi g E e e da ci g i h he S a
    c m e e a a a hle e, a ia hl i g fl i g la e , he I
    de el ed - e a e b i h h ee i di id al fea i life. Th ee.
    A d ha ' i . Th e h ee fea a e f dame al f cce a a
    h ma bei g. Th e h ee fea a e he fea f falli g. The fea f
    i la i . A d he fea f i e. E e he fea i lea . S he fea f
    falli g eache lea h alk a h ma bei g . O he i e he
    ake k ee a d a d , h i g i b aki g
    he e e . Tha ' ha make lea h alk a h ma bei g .
    The fea f i la i i a fea f bei g able ee c mm i ie
    ge he a d ha fea f i la i make e e a ia e a d c me
    ge he de el c mm i ie .
    The fea f i e b i l i a e e f da ge a d , he he i i
    h gh m , fi e a h le a ge f diffe e fea f m i e ha e
    lea .

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  19. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    H e e , e e he fea i lea . I ca ha k m a e a a
    e ea l age h did ' a "he li e a e all bli d, d ' g
    he e a d ide a bike d ' g he e a d b l a c icke ball". I
    a "ge he e, gi e i a g a d le ' ee h fa ac all ge ".
    H e e ma a e a hei child alk i he ki che ill a , "he
    li e d ' ch he h la e migh b elf". Tha i lea .
    M m a "d ' ch a k ife migh c elf' he fea f k ife i
    he lea . We lea he fea f cce , he fea f fail e. All h e
    hi g f fail e, fea , cce , a e lea a a e ea l age a d h e
    de el a d g h e a ic la fea h gh life.
    We ha e i he h ee fea , he h ee f dame al fea , e ca
    cha ge a d g h e lea fea f m a e ea l age. F me
    b i l a d I e he i ie I' e had, al a ha bee
    ab e c mi g h e lea ed fea . I c ld e ea il a li e m
    g ide ill me i a a ked ca ee , i bec me a I lea
    fea . F me a a e i h a h ical di abili i i ab eachi g
    kid c mi g h gh h a e bli d, l i i h ha e a a ic la
    di abili ab he i ie he ca e. I i ece a il a
    e - i b i l a ec ea i al ac i i b i e I
    e de i e he ha e achie e a g al he ha e achie e
    h gh hei life. A i i am g he e le a d me a ell.
    If ha e a e i I migh ha d back S e he , if
    ha e a e i ld like a k, I e f m m elf
    ma be f m a ch c la ie e ec i e f m a b i e e ec i e.
    STEVE BATY: Tha k m ch. Tha ' a de f l c llec i f
    ie . I ha e a . W de f l. I ha e e e i la c me
    h gh fa hich I ill a k. If a e f i . S hi c me f m
    Sakib h a k , ha ld be e m -ha e ad ice f a la ge

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  20. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    eam f hem ha e a g h mi d- e ?
    GERRARD GOSENS: I hi k f m he a e c mm ica e a a eam i
    f dame al a d f e I ge a ked b e le h a li e ha c l
    d ee a a bli d e ? I ee hi g a all. S e le a me
    ee black. The fi be able ee black m fi ee hi e. S
    bei g all bli d i he ab e ce f ha f e am le, hi i e ha d f
    e le de a d i ha f e am le if I m ha d , he e
    i hi g i be ee . I ' black, i ' hi e, i i hi g a all.
    H e e , if I aid h ld de c ibe he c l ed, me
    e le migh a , he li e , ed i h . S me e le migh a ed i
    a g . The migh a ed i l e. O e migh a f e am le bl e i
    c l. The migh a hi e i f ee i g fl ff e. O e hi g ha i
    eall f dame al i a eam i ha e ca be l ki g a d c me , i
    i c i , a g al, a d e all ee he c l ed a d e a e eei g hi
    ed g al a d ' e eei g i a l e a d I'm eei g i a h . O a
    a g . We all ca ee he c l i a e , e diffe e ligh . S i '
    f dame all im a h e c mm ica e he g al a d all e ake
    he a ic la feeli g, he e e ie ce, i h he ac al g al. O he i e
    e all ill be l ki g a he hi e e fl ff a i ce a d ee i i
    a e diffe e le.
    Al h e I e ee a d h e c mm ica e ha i a I
    aid ea lie i he f e e c e c mm ica e he eam. We ca l k
    a b i l he eg la i f ha b i ma be ab he eg la i
    f he ac al mea i g, i i h e a d ha e c mm ica e i ha
    a ic la mea i g hich i im a a ell.
    S , if I am I e idi g ha i d , f ac all maki g e
    e ec g i e he fac f life ha c me al g i a a ic la j e a d
    e c mi g h e i di id al fea b al l ki g h e ca ai

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  21. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    ha g h i he a . Wha a e he i e ca make e
    eam f e am le e ca ha e e le h call i ick. We ca ha e
    e le h eed ake me e al lea e a al lea e ime a
    ea he e ce ill be a ailable. Wha a e he i ha e
    ca g , ha a e he i ie e ca ake ? I ime e ca
    e ha i lace me f ce e . A e he e a e ac all
    b i g i he d c ? F e am le, i m ch c la e b i e , a a
    f m elli g b i l he i di id al ch c la e f COVID I b gh i a
    ch c la e fi aid ki . I c e e e hi g. C e he c a i , i i
    fa a ic. We ha e f e am le i ide he ch c la e fi aid ki ,
    i ea le. Tha ma be beca e a e feeli g a bi gh a d he
    edge . The e i a h le a ge f diffe e h ma hei g e i h he
    ch c la e fi aid ki .
    S i i b i gi g i h e a i i , li e e e ie ce , he
    e ca ell a d maki g e i hi he eam a I aid ea lie i he
    ed e a e eei g e a e all eei g i a h , l e a g . We a e all
    e e ie ce a d c mm ica i g i i he ame a .
    STEVE BATY: Tha ' g ea . Tha k . I ha e a he e i h gh
    f m J h a d I ill ead hi . Ve ba im. Y a e a l
    i i a i al. A d hi ha bee b illia . Wha i he m mem able
    e e ie ce ha e had a d h ? A d if e e gi e e iece f
    ad ice c m a ie h a e de ig i g f di abili ie , ha ld ha
    be?
    GERRARD GOSENS: M - I e, e e ie ce a a a hle e i ' f ,
    i ha hil climbi g E e e a a maj achie eme , I hi k f me
    e e j c mmi i g Da ci g i he S a hil i ma be a eali
    h , i a e c mi g m e al challe ge I ha e e e ee

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  22. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    me hi g I ha e e e e e ie ced. A d i e ie 3 I had d 20
    ec d f i di id al da ci g Da ci g i h he S a . N , 20
    ec d ma eem like a l g ime i di id all . B f a e h
    i all bli d I had idea if I a faci g he igh a , he e he
    came a e e, he he I a ac all e e d i g he da ce c ec l . S
    i a eall j m i g i he h le ealm f b i l maki g e ha
    I c ld e c me e ha a lea ed fea f ac all emba a i g m elf
    li e ele i i b ide f b i l he cha ce e e e m
    c , e ha e e e f he m e i e e i g m me f me a
    i 1996 I e he Pa al m ic Game a d hi g e back I e
    m ea l c mme f . I k i he e i g ce em , a d I
    k e i a ' bei g b adca back A alia I had he ld m bile
    b ick h e, a h e a d I alked i he e i g ce em f 1996
    Pa al m ic Game I had he m bile h e he e i h me a d I had a
    f ie d h ked i ABC adi , he a g me , I did me li e
    c mme a f alm a h f he e i g ce em f he 1996
    A la a Pa al m ic Game . The f hi g a e e called
    ABC a d aid h he hell i a bli d e de c ibi g a e i g
    ce em . S e, I had me e i he ea de c ibi g he me
    b ha e le e e aki g back, he e e e j i g he e. The
    e e e j i g he e e ie ce f ha a a hle e a feeli g a he e e
    alki g, i ac al fac i ' a lie d ' alk i he e i g ce em ,
    i ac al fac a e fl a . Y a e icked b e le d f e i e
    c d a d fl a . I a alki g i he e i g e ce em . F
    a eam ha ' l ki g ake i i cl i de ig f e le i h a
    di abili I hi k i i l ki g f a d maki g e he ha e
    i c a ed he de ig ea l . I ee a l f mi ake a d e made
    he e e le ill de ig me hi g, he hi k h ca e make i
    acce ible. Beca e f e am le, igh , 20% f all eb i e a e

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  23. N e ha hi i a edi ed a c i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i
    i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be
    c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i .
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    acce ible. O l . S e a e mi i g a d ma ea ag G a
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