less empathetic. Privilege can blind us. The next thing I would like to raise is when. When do we involve service recipients? I don't like the word users, people that we're researching with, when do we involve them in the process? Often usually design and research is done here, around before the discovery phase. And commonly done here where we validate and refine concepts or interventions. But really, to get the outcomes we should get and we can get, you really need to involve people throughout the process. If I was there I would say raise your hand if you've seen this. But maybe do that in your house. I won't know. This is a well-known framework, the IAP2 framework and it is used to inform public consultation framework. I feel it's useful here when considering participation within the design process. I have not - I'm behind, on the wrong slide. Here we are. I feel that design and research commonly we sit in the consult part of the spectrum. We will listen to and acknowledge concerns and aspirations but to get the outcomes we can get and we should be getting, we really should be moving into collaborate, where we will look to you for advice and innovation in formulating solutions and incorporate your advice to the maximum extent possible. That is where we should get. We need to stop designing for people and start designing with people. And how might we involve diverse voices of lived experience throughout our processes? How might be ensure we include the voices of lived experience and ensuring stakeholders have empathy and understanding? OK, so, eight considerations for conducting research with vulnerable people and including the voices of lived experience. Point one: Take a systems view. Life for vulnerable people is usually complex, a system view facilitates understanding. At the start, create a map of the system your user groups are involved with. Include people, policies, services, organisations, places. Keep adding to this map, it will be very useful. Vulnerable people can be hard to recruit for research. A systems view can help to understand how to get those hard to reach voices included and it can help you find partners in organisations that work with the community. A systems view will help you understand people's context, supporting you to hone your research focus and it is valuable in sense making because it can help you to understand the complexity of someone's life beyond their medical diagnosis or socioeconomic situation. It will help you understand enablers and detractors in their world and identify noncausal relationships between these, helping you to understand and recommend where to intervene. A system lens will help you, your colleagues, your partners, clients and decision makers to identify where the levers for change may lie so you can intervene in ways that have impact. I am a big fan of systems thinking and use it to inform my practice in dealing with complexity and there are links there in case you would like to read more about it. Two: Mind your mental models. Bias is unavoidable, reflect to know yours. Consider the power dynamics of the system you are part of. They are there. Where does power lie? Reflect on this in relation to your issues and the larger context. It is important to consider who is funding this work? Understand your privilege. What hinders your ability to take another's perspective? Consider your personal and cultural assumptions. Again, they are there. And be reflective when sense making. Always interrogate your assumptions. Try to tune into your judgments and it is helpful to identify patterns together, work with colleagues in field work, work with domain experts and work with people with lived experience to