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Web Cross Talk @yosuke_furukawa @laco2net @1000ch @kazu_pon
ΈΜͳԿΛͬͯΔਓʁ 1000ch: Web ։ൃશൠ laco2net: ࣾπʔϧߏஙɺSPA։ൃ kazu_pon: ελʔτΞοϓͷϑϧε λοΫΤϯδχΞɺγεςϜશൠɺ Web/backend
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full single page application vs partial single page application kazu_pon:
Vue.js ෦తʹ͍ͬͯΔ 1000ch: SSRαʔόΛ࡞ͬͯɺ͔ͦ͜Βฦͨ͠ޙSSR x Full SPA Ͱͬͯͨɻpartial SPA΄΅ແ͍ɻ merpayͰɺVue.js Nuxt.js ͰͬͯΔ laco2net: SSRͬͯͳ͍͕ɺAngularͷfull SPA, Service Worker Λ͍ͬͯΔɻReactͷϧʔλʔηϯε͕ѱ͔ͬͨ
Router: Angularͷ߹ angular/router Vue.js ͷ߹ vue-router ͕͋Δ React react-router͕ͩɺർฐ͠
͍ͯΔ
ΈΜͳ͕SPAͰ࡞ͬͯΔͷ kazu_pon: Α͋͘ΔΞϓϦ͕ͩɺࠓ·Ͱͬͨ࣌ʹεΫ ϩʔϧҐஔ͕ճؼͯ͘͠Εͳ͍͜ͱ͕͋ͬͨɻ laco2net: ࣾͷਓͱࣾ֎ͷਓ͕Ұॹʹ͏πʔϧɺ Service Worker ͰΩϟογϡ͕ύʔδ͞Εͳ͍ɻɻɻ QAͯ͘͠ΕͯΔਓͷΩϟογϡͷύʔδΊͬͪΌΊΜͲ
͍ɻService Worker ʹߋ৽͕͋Δ࣌ʹ࣮ࡍʹऔ͖ͬͯͯߋ ৽͢Δͱ͍͏ॲཧΛඪ४Ͱཉ͍͠ɻ
ΈΜͳ͕SPAͰ࡞ͬͯΔͷ 1000ch: ঢ়ଶཧ͕ۤ࿑͍ͯ͠Δ JSͷঢ়ଶͱϖʔδͷঢ়ଶͷsync τϥϯβΫγϣϯڥք͕յΕΔ
ΈΜͳ͕SPAͰࠔͬͨ͜ͱ োͳͲ
JS Fatigue ࣮ײ͋Δʁ kazu_pon: Vue.js͕͖ͳ͚ͩͰͬͯΔΘ͚͡Όͳ͍ͷͰ࣮ײͳ͍͕ɺ৽ ͍͠bundleπʔϧͱ͔͕ग़ͯ͘ΔͱɺͦΕʹରԠ͠ͳ͍ͱ͍͚ͳ͍ͷͰେม Vue.jsFlow/TypeScriptͰॻ͚Δ͕ɺࠓͷͱ͜ΖTypeScript͕ϝϯςφ͕ ڧ͍͕தFlow laco2net: Angular
جຊTypeScript, Firefox͘Shadow DOM࣮͞ΕΖͱ ࢥͬͯΔɻNode.jsͷϒϥβͱcommonjsͱͰർฐ͢Δ͜ͱ͋Δɻ Custom ElementsͰԿ͔࣮͢ΔͱɺFirefoxͷͨΊʹPolyfill͕ඞཁɻ 1000ch: webpack͕ݏͩɻCSS in JS͕Ұൠతʹͳͬͯͬ͘͠Γདྷͯͳ͍ɻ
ࠓޙͷWebඪ४Ͱظ͍ͨ͜͠ͱʁ kazu_pon: WebAssemblyɺϙʔλϏϦ ςΟ͕૿ͯ͠ϥΠϒϥϦͱͯ͠ೖΕΒΕΔ Α͏ʹͳͬͨΓɺWebҎ֎ͷϥΠϒϥϦ ͖࣋ͬͯͯಈ͘ͱ໘ന͍
ࠓޙͷWebඪ४Ͱظ͍ͨ͜͠ͱʁ laco2net: template-instantiation, DOMChangeList https://github.com/whatwg/dom/ issues/270
ࠓޙͷWebඪ४Ͱظ͍ͨ͜͠ͱ ʁ 1000ch: vdom͕ͬͯΔ͜ͱΛඪ ४Ͱͬͯ΄͍͠
ࠓޙͷWebඪ४Ͱظ͍ͨ͜͠ͱ ʁ
ࠓޙͷAngular SPAͷ։ൃϓϥοτϑΥʔϜ ࡁΈɿΓͲ͏͘͢Δ͔ SPA͡Όͳ͍จ຺ͰϢʔεέʔεΛ ૿͢
ࠓޙͷVue.js kazu_pon: WebͰՁͷ͋ΔͷΛ ͙͢ʹఏڙͰ͖ΔΑ͏ʹͯ͘͠ɻෳ ࡶͳͷΛ؆୯ʹ͢ΔͨΊͷΈ Λఏڙ͢Δɻ
ࠓޙͷWebඪ४ Service Worker, Web Components, Web Payments ͜ΕΒ͕ਐΜͰཉ͠ ͍ɻ ීٴ͖͠ΕAngularͱ͔Vue
ͱ͔ͷϑϨʔϜϫʔΫͳ͘ͳͬͯ ΑΓྑ͘ͳΔɻ