Upgrade to Pro
— share decks privately, control downloads, hide ads and more …
Speaker Deck
Features
Speaker Deck
PRO
Sign in
Sign up for free
Search
Search
Knee-Deep Into P2P: A Tale of Fail (PWL Porto)
Search
Fernando Mendes
May 23, 2018
Programming
71
0
Share
Embed
Copy iframe code
Copy JS code
Copy link
Start on current slide
Knee-Deep Into P2P: A Tale of Fail (PWL Porto)
Fernando Mendes
May 23, 2018
More Decks by Fernando Mendes
See All by Fernando Mendes
you. and the morals of technology
fribmendes
1
150
Knee-Deep Into P2P: A Tale of Fail (ElixirConf EU 2018 version)
fribmendes
0
190
Knee-Deep Into P2P: A Tale of Fail (non-Elixir)
fribmendes
0
220
A Look Into Bloom Filters
fribmendes
0
550
Bloom Filters: A Look Into Ruby
fribmendes
0
140
Programming WTF: HTML & CSS
fribmendes
4
180
Ruby: A (pointless) Workshop
fribmendes
1
170
Elixir: A Talk For College Students
fribmendes
0
190
Riding Rails
fribmendes
0
120
Other Decks in Programming
See All in Programming
思考垂れ流し開発 ~音声入力 × AIエージェント × 開発ハーネスによる試行錯誤~
npostring
0
810
KotlinConf Extended South Korea 2026 Keynote
l2hyunwoo
0
130
Vibes Containers 〜AIで変わるコンテナ設計と運用〜
tkikuc
1
470
LLMは4年分のCompose移行を再現できるのか?実プロダクト279件のXMLで探る自動化の境界線
makun
0
380
Oxlintはいいぞ(続)
yug1224
1
540
PyO3 で既存 Python 評価器を Rust core 化する ー wasm-bindgen でブラウザにも配るための設計
kdash
1
370
ハーネス設計入門 〜プロンプト、コンテキストの次〜
kinopeee
53
35k
Webエンジニアなのにブラウザの仕組みがわからないので、Pythonで自作してみた
tatsuki12
4
1.7k
in-process GraphQL のすすめ #ginzajs
izumin5210
4
1.5k
新卒PdEのリアル
ryu1013
1
380
{ Android | Kotlin } Gradle Plugin in 2026
ryunen344
1
280
Flow は今どうなっているか
mizdra
PRO
0
910
Featured
See All Featured
The Spectacular Lies of Maps
axbom
PRO
1
970
Learning to Love Humans: Emotional Interface Design
aarron
275
41k
Agile that works and the tools we love
rasmusluckow
331
22k
VelocityConf: Rendering Performance Case Studies
addyosmani
331
25k
SEO for Brand Visibility & Recognition
aleyda
0
4.7k
Building a Scalable Design System with Sketch
lauravandoore
463
34k
Building Applications with DynamoDB
mza
96
7.2k
Game over? The fight for quality and originality in the time of robots
wayneb77
1
260
SEO in 2025: How to Prepare for the Future of Search
ipullrank
3
3.8k
Max Prin - Stacking Signals: How International SEO Comes Together (And Falls Apart)
techseoconnect
PRO
0
450
We Analyzed 250 Million AI Search Results: Here's What I Found
joshbly
1
1.9k
ReactJS: Keep Simple. Everything can be a component!
pedronauck
666
130k
Transcript
Knee-Deep Into P2P A Tale of Fail @fribmendes
Knee-Deep Into P2P A Tale of Fail @fribmendes
None
None
None
None
None
I don’t know how to smart office
I don’t know how to smart office … what now?
@fribmendes me failing at photoshop
None
I don’t know how to smart office … what now?
None
None
None
None
Step 1: receive new connections
Step 1: receive new connections Step 2: accept and send
messages
Step 1: receive new connections Step 2: accept and send
messages Step 3: do a bunch of Steps 1 and 2
Step 1: receive new connections
None
defp accept_loop(pid, server_socket) do {:ok, client} = :gen_tcp.accept(server_socket) :inet.setopts(client, [active:
true]) :gen_tcp.controlling_process(client, pid) Gossip.accept(pid, client) accept_loop(pid, server_socket) end
defp accept_loop(pid, server_socket) do {:ok, client} = :gen_tcp.accept(server_socket) :inet.setopts(client, [active:
true]) :gen_tcp.controlling_process(client, pid) Gossip.accept(pid, client) accept_loop(pid, server_socket) end
Step 1: receive new connections Step 2: accept and send
messages
None
def recv_loop(pid, socket) do receive do {:tcp, _port, msg} ->
# process an incoming message {:tcp_closed, port} -> # close the sockets {:send, msg} -> # send an outgoing message end end end
Step 1: receive new connections Step 2: accept and send
messages Step 3: do a bunch of Steps 1 and 2
Raspberry Pi #1 Raspberry Pi #2
None
None
None
“Does it scale?”
None
None
g
Gnutella
Gnutella
Gnutella
Gnutella
Gnutella
g
g (gnutella2)
Gnutella
G2/Gnutella2
G2/Gnutella2
G2/Gnutella2
G2/Gnutella2
None
None
None
None
None
HyParView
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
Plumtrees
Optimal number of messages
But you can’t afford to lose nodes
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
“Aha! It works on my computer!”
“Aha! It works on my computer!”
“Great but we need something to show”
“Great but we need something to show” (aka Raspberry Pi
time)
“Guys… Is this a bomb? Are we going to die?”
— @naps62
“Hey, I can borrow™ someone else’s code”
None
None
None
you shall not pass!
Stick everything on Raspberry Pi’s
Things running on one Raspberry Pi
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM ✓thebox (sensors)
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM ✓thebox (sensors) ✓Phoenix
app
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM (x2) ✓thebox (sensors)
✓Phoenix app
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM (x2) ✓thebox (sensors)
✓Phoenix app ✓Postgres
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM (x2) ✓thebox (sensors)
✓Phoenix app ✓Postgres ✓Cassandra
Things running on one Raspberry Pi ✓BEAM (x2) ✓thebox (sensors)
✓Phoenix app ✓Postgres ✓Cassandra it works!
None
None
None
“Looking good! Everything’s working!”
lol, nope
State of each node:
State of each node: • Last sensor readings
State of each node: • Last sensor readings • Network
map (MAC-IP)
State of each node: • Last sensor readings • Network
map (MAC-IP) • Target values
State of each node: • Last sensor readings • Network
map (MAC-IP) • Target values
None
How do we handle concurrency?
None
None
No database locks. No transactions. You’re on your own, kiddo.
Vector Clocks
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
Vector = (1, 0) Vector = (0, 1)
CAP Theorem
CAP Theorem “you’re a programmer. you can’t have nice things.”
consistency availability partitioning
consistency availability partitioning
None
Eventual Consistency
CRDTs
None
Operation-Based CRDT
Operation-Based CRDT commutative but not idempotent update exactly once
no CRDTs
no CRDTs
no CRDTs
no CRDTs
Op-based CRDTs
Op-based CRDTs
Op-based CRDTs
Op-based CRDTs
State-Based CRDT
State-Based CRDT commutative and idempotent heavier on the network
State-based CRDTs
State-based CRDTs
State-based CRDTs
State-based CRDTs
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
None
Wrapping up
System resources matter
System resources matter your algorithms should account for them
There are models. Use them.
Distributed System Checklist
Distributed System Checklist •Is the number of processes known or
finite?
Distributed System Checklist •Is the number of processes known or
finite? •Is there a global notion of time?
Distributed System Checklist •Is the number of processes known or
finite? •Is there a global notion of time? •Is the network reliable?
Distributed System Checklist •Is the number of processes known or
finite? •Is there a global notion of time? •Is the network reliable? •Is there full connectivity?
Distributed System Checklist •Is the number of processes known or
finite? •Is there a global notion of time? •Is the network reliable? •Is there full connectivity? •What happens when a process crashes?
It really doesn’t change that much
CRDTs aren’t a golden hammer
Reinventing the wheel is stupid
None
Knee-Deep Into P2P A Tale of Fail @fribmendes