mean the rest of the world doesn't have a point * We got increasingly micro-library'y over time * We learned the importance of a super-easy starting experience from Angular, but never sacrificed one core principle: the getting started experience has to be a subset of the real-world experience, not a totally different one. * We spent a lot of time seriously considering React's approach, to see what parts of it people perceive as "simple", even though React's solution is a small subset of the "ambitious web app" scope Ember has. It's super-easy to ignore these kinds of things. * TL;DR We spend a lot of time looking at what everyone else is doing and saying, and even if we don't agree with the message, we look for things that work well or appeal to people.