Shirley Chowdhary - The GO Story - The vision of Adam Goodes and Michael O’Loughlin

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August 28, 2020

Shirley Chowdhary - The GO Story - The vision of Adam Goodes and Michael O’Loughlin

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August 28, 2020
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . www captionslive com au | captionslive outlook com | UX A a a UX A a a 2020 - #UXA2020 Da 4 F da , 28 A g 2020 Ca i ed b : Ke ie C ke
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 2 SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: Tha k . I'm g i g lea e c ee f 30 ec d , I'm j g i g cl e m bli d. Gi e me e ec. STEVE BATY: OK. SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: I'm back, . We' e had ech ical diffic l ie hi m i g beca e da m m l i le c ee ch e da all b eak d . S I' e g a make hif em, I'm h i g i ' g i g c a h d me half a h gh b eall lea ed be he e. STEVE BATY: Tha k e m ch a d I'll h . SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: M i g, e e b d . A S e e aid, m ame' Shi le Ch d a d I'm eall i ileged be he CEO f Adam G de a d Michael O'L ghli ' GO F da i . I'd like a m e ec elde a , e e a d eme gi g he la d I'm da . O e f he hi g ha I' e bee eall f a e lea , a d ha e' e eall g a GO i ha he e gi e a ack ledgme e gi e a , e ha e a . T da I'd like ack ledge ha I dige A alia , Fi Na i e le, ha e bee elli g ie a d ha i g ie e ball like hi f mille ia. A d I hi k e' e f a e beca e i h he Ul a eme Fi Na i e le ha e gi e a i i a i k al g ide hem a e k b ild a A alia ha i he c ha e all de e e ha e a d all de e e li e i . GO i d i g ch a mall a f ha k ge ha ace a d I feel eall l ck da be able ha e ha i h . I'd like a da i h a ide . GO c l e a he ce e f e e hi g e d a d I'll alk a li le bi ab ha ha mea la e .
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 3 B i hi ide , ill ee c l all i e i ed i h he ie f de a d i fea e he Ba ga a da ce a d f igi al de . Ha g , . Gi e me e ec d hile I ha e a d e ha e. A abelle, i d e ' eem be i g. >> Wha a e ha i g c ee h gh? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: I ha ed i bef e. Le me me hi g el e. >> Whe e i he i e? I ' le i g g e . SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: I ' g i g he e c ee hich i bi a e beca e a d I e ed i a fe mi e ag . >> S , e e b d . J gi e e m me , lea e. A d ' e i g i h gh a P e P i , a e ? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: I am. >> Le ' l k a P e P i ha i g e i g . SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: N hi g ha cha ged i ce a d I - >> N eed . We'll ge he e. SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: S , e e e. Wha I migh d , A abelle, if I ca lea e fi ha , I de if I h ld - d a me cl i g i a d e e i g i ?
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 4 >> Y e e a i ? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: Yeah. >> Gi e ha a g . A d ' e i g i he ame a e did e i l ? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: N diffe e ce. Y ca ' ee m c ee e , ca ? >> N , migh a ha e c ee . Tha k , e e b d . Team k, igh ? SHIRELY CHOWDRY: S ab ha . >> N ie a all. I'll lea e i h i . (Vide ) >> The e' me hi g e f l i i g ide a igh al e l ki g a he a . >> I ' a g ea feeli g bei g c . I ' a big e e ie ce. I l e e e hi g ab i . >> M g ea -g ea -g a dm he a d g a dm he e e a f he le ge e a i . The e' all he e ga i k ledge. We' e mi i g c ec i c a d la d a d e le.
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 5 >> I ee me f he e e e ie ce ha i g m ide i a d ma i e i ilege be a a f a c l e ha ' bee a d f m e ha 60,000 ea . >> Ed ca i i he m e f l l beca e i l ck ma i ie , i cha ge m e ial. >> I ell Ab igi al kid ha i g a ed ca i d e e d f , ha he e i he e. >> I dige c l e i f e e e a d I hi k ha defi e i . >> S elf he e, gi e i 100%. I belie e ha he e ill be i ie , d ' ab ha he e le hi k f . Ed ca i gi e f eed m. >> Y ' e he e ha ge e ell ha f ge e a i c me, maki g e ha i c i e f a he 60,000 ea . SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: S , ha ki d f i a glim e i f de a d a he e d I'll ha e a ide i h ha Adam a d Michael ha e made alk ab he j e h gh ed ca i . Wh d e e i ? A alia b a he - i Fi Na i e le a d c l e, e b a he lde li i g c l e i he ld. Ye a he ame ime, adl , I dige e le ha e he a i ic f a I dige e le i he ld a d I ld like ha e me f h e a i h hi m i g beca e he e a a e ha d i e he k ha e d . If a e a I dige ma , life e ec a c i i e ea
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 6 le ha a -I dige ma f he ame able. If a e a I dige ma , i ' eigh ea le . If a e a I dige h be ee he age f 10 a d 24, a e 24 ime m e likel be i ca ce a ed ha a e fi i h ea 12. Tha a i ic al a d i e h me me h bad he i a i i i hi c . A d h fe i ie I dige child e ha e. A d hi k ab i , a l f ill ha e child e . S if ' e a I dige child be ee 10 a d 24 a e 24 ime m e likel e d i jail ha fi i h ch l. I hi k ha i a dam i g i dic me all f . I dige me a e da he fa e g i g la i i i . A d he Cl i g he Ga a ge , f he e e a ge , l a e ack da . S child m ali , life e ec a c , em l me c me , ch l a e da ce, a d li e ac a d me ac a e all behi d. A d ha e e iall mea ha if ' e b I dige i A alia da , ca e ec , i h i e e i , ca e ec all f h e life c me a d i dica hi a i d i g life ime i h -I dige A alia . A d ha ' ha e' e he e d . O i i , heal h a d ellbei g, be i , em l me , m ki g, icide a e a d i ca ce a i , I dige e le fa e e ha if he e e -I dige . I ' h e a i ic ha d e Adam a d Michael d me hi g. S f de a e he e g , Adam G de a d Michael O'L ghli , a d f h e f h a e AFL fa , ill be ell ac ai ed i h he e g a d if ' e a AFL fa a d e e ' i a b f he la fi e ea , ill be ell ac ai ed i h Adam G de h a A alia f he Yea i 2014. Whe he e g e e la i g f i h he S d e S a , he e e - he a i ed i S d e a g d af ee a d he I dige c mm i i S d e emb aced hem a d he al a a ed gi e
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 7 back he I dige c mm i a ha k . S i 2009, Michael e i ed f m he S d e S a a a f la e a d i h hei g d f ie d Jame Ga ch a ed GO. I a called G de O'L ghli F da i back he a d he g a mall G e me g a f m he S a e G e me a d he e a i h e e NSW called Da e . I Da e he did e e hi g. The did ellbei g a d heal h g am , i i g am , fl acci a i , he e ec ed a la g d f kid , he did em l me g am a d Mick ell a g ea , ac all . The e a ch l, a d he 'd ga i ed he fl acci a i be gi e all he cla e . The cla e a ed fili g i a d e f he kid ed a d Michael a d aid, "I'm ca ed, I d ' a a fl acci e, I d ' like eedle ." Michael ed a d a d aid, "D ' , I'll ha e e." S he had a jab. A he cla came i a d aid, "Michael, I'm ca ed, I d ' a a jab." Michael aid, "D ' , I'll ha e e." B he e d f he da , lege d ha i , a d ie a e al a embelli hed i h Michael, b lege d ha i ha he had eigh fl acci a i ha da a d a ick a a d g f eek a d eek . T me, ha e ca la e h f de a e. The gi e hei hea a d l GO a d e e h gh he ' e b h cce f l b i e me da , he b h hei c m a ie , he a e b h hea il i l ed i GO. If e ha e de i di e ggli g, Adam a d Michael ill be he fi ick he h e call hem a d gi e hem he be efi f hei li ed e e ie ce a d a li le bi f c mf . Michael i de chai a GO a d Adam i he chai f ch la hi c mmi ee, b h h e f he ' e eall hea il i l ed. S Da e c i ed f ab h ee ea a d he Da e fi i hed he had eal lea i g . The fi a if a d d
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 8 e e hi g, eall d ' d a hi g eall ell. A d he ec d a ha beca e f h he e e a d hei c ec i f ball a d all he c ac ha he had made h gh hei ca ee , he c ld ac all ga e a l m e ha a he able f m, a , ha g e me g a a he ime. S ga i a i like B i g a d Le d Lea e a d ma m e came i a d ed hem d i g ha ime. S he k a ga af e Da e a d he e me ime l ki g a he e he h ld eall f c hei a e i . A d ha he f d a ha if he f c ed hei a e i ed ca i , ha c ld be he il e b lle ha eall make a diffe e ce. Adam a d Michael ha e a h ge a ge f kill b I hi k e f he be e i ha he he d ' k he eed e e ad ice he ll i he igh e le a d hem a d i 2013 he lled i , h gh hei c ec i a he S d e S a , I hi k, e f A alia' leadi g -f - fi b a d . S he like f Sam M e , Ke B da , Pe e M i , a d e' e m ed e g he ha b a d i ce 2013. B he e e le j m ed i a d Michael a d Adam a d he hel ed a ha i he ga i a i da . A d he a e ed i h a ga i a i called AIF h ga e i a e ch l ch la hi a d i 2015 e ga e fi 15 i a e ch l ch la hi . N he g am ha cha ged d ama icall i ce he a d F ida e ga e 532 d ch la hi , he b lk a e S a e ch l . S i 2015, e had 15 ch la all i i a e ch l b ha e had a Adam a d Michael' g i i c ha e eeded d i diffe e l , a d hei g i i c f c ed a mbe f diffe e a ea . I'm j g i g - gi e me e ec, I' e j g cha ge hi . I f c ed a mbe f diffe e a ea . The h gh ha c l e h ld be a he ce e f e e hi g e d . The h gh ha I dige le
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 9 m del e e i al kid . The a ed f c gi l a d he a ed f c blic ed ca i . Whe e l ked a h e hi g i de ail, e eali ed ha e eeded a em i ical ba e eall make ha he ba i f ha e e e d i g. S i 2017 e e a d i h KPMG' hel e ge he hi e ea ch a d e l ked a he c ela i be ee f he ed ca i a d be e c me f I dige kid . A d ha e f d a , e hi k, eall g d b eaki g f beca e e e f e f d ha he g i i c ha Adam a d Michael had, e e backed b e ea ch. S he e ea ch ld ha c l e h ld be a he hea f e e hi g e d beca e if I dige kid had a g c l al ide i a d de d m e ab hei c ec i he la d a d hei hi a d hei he i age, ha ha ld e be - ha ld e - ha ld gi e hem a be e ba i f cce i ed ca i a d ai i g. I e ea ch, e f d ha gi l e e bei g made ffe - e e gi e ffe i e i a d f he ed ca i a he ame a e a b b he e e ' acce i g h e ffe a he ame a e beca e f e he e e gi e ca e ake d ie i c mm i , a ked l k af e e le a ked g k. We f d ha le m del a e e e m e i al I dige de ha he a e -I dige de a d he ea f ha i ma f kid da , i hei immedia e ici i , d ' ha e he le m delli g ha , a , m kid migh ha e. S m kid migh g i h cie i d c la e hai d e e c cil ke eache i hei ici i a d beca e he ha e he e e le i hei ici i , he g hi ki g ha h e e le a e - he e e e he a ge f ibili ie f hem el e . A d he g i a i a i he e e ha a e d ' g k e e da , e ha g a d a e e e le a d ha ha c ea ed i e ge e a i al a ma
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 10 i famil , e ha he e he e le i ici i a e ch l eache k f c cil, d ' ha e ha le m delli g i life a d d ' al a k ha ca be. A d e f amba ad , B ke B , al a a ca ' be ha ca ' ee. S e f d i e ea ch ha ac all i g he e le m del a d ie f cce i f f de a i al. We al f d i hi e ea ch ha m e ' e gh. Y ca h a m ch m e a a a a de b a f a ch la hi b ha i ' he igge ha make he diffe e ce. Wha eall make he diffe e ce i he a d he ha d ha ide he de hei a h a h gh ch l a d h gh i e i . A d i ' ha h li ic ha e a a d de ha I hi k make ga i a i i e. A d I ill alk a li le bi la e ab ha i i e gi e de h gh a ch la hi b i ma a a ch la hi i he g d call ha e d beca e i ' j m e , i ' a h le a ge f he hi g , i cl di g acce a d i . Adam a d Michael e e b h child e f i gle m he a d he g e i h li ed e e ie ce f ha i g e gh, f ha i g a el a l . Michael ell ie f ha i g ha e die a d ck a d ha i g f ibli g i a bed m a d ha i g ea hi m he ' eake he e did ' ha e eake . A d Adam ell ie f m i g a d a l a d bei g able g e c i . The a ed hel a d k i h de e ac l like hem. The e ea ch ld h e de , h e e i he l e SES b acke e e i blic ch l . S he g i i c ha he had, he c l e a he ce e, gi l m e ha b , elde kid , le m delli g, blic ch l , e had he e ea ch ba e ell a d g ide i ha e a ed d . S , e l ked a he dem g a hic f I dige de ac
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 11 he c . Wha e f d a ha he e a e 213,000, he e e e i 2017, 213,000 I dige de f m ki d h gh ea 12 i A alia. A d f h e 213,000 I dige de , ab 15% e e i i de e de ch l . We fig ed ha he e i i de e de ch l h e e al ead he e did ' eed he ki d f ha e a ed gi e. S e did e ea ch, e l ked a he mbe a d e eali ed ha he e' ab 60,000 80,000 I dige de h d ' ha e he l a d he e ce e e da cceed i ch l. S e g fi d f a lica i , e a ked a mbe f e i a d e f he e i a "Wha i i d ' like ab ch l?" A d i ha fi d f blic ch l a lica i e g 44 a lica i a d e e i gle e f h e 44 a lica i aid he ame hi g: Tha ch l a hei afe lace b i ' hei afe lace a m e beca e he ' e ge i g i ble f hi g ha a e f hei c l. S , f e am le, da e, a I dige de migh g ch l a d he' j like e e b d el e, a be he e, a lea , a d he' i g . We al a a i g i half he ba le. T , ge h me k a d a ig me ha igh b d e ' ha e a la a d d e ' ha e i-fi a h me. The ch l i ggli g f e ce al ca ' gi e he kid acce i-fi la . S da 2 he de a i e a ch l a d he ' e i ble f d i g hei a ig me a d e ea ch a d h me k. S me hi g c m le el be d hei c l. The ' e he ame a e e e el e he ha ha da 2 a d he a he e d f da 2 he g h me a d he ame hi g ha e . A d e e da he c me ch l he fall f he a d f he behi d a d c i e ge i g i ble f hi g ha a e be d hei c l. A d
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 12 ha eemed like a eall ea fi i g am. A d I ill alk a li le bi la e ab h e m e fi ha . B h gh hi e ea ch, ha e did, he , i e c ea ed a g am ha did a fe hi g . We c l e a he hea f e e hi g e d a d ha ' c l e i g am i h he kid , i ' c l e i g am i h c a e a e a d e f he hi g e d i i ld be a de f l hi g if e j c ea ed hi a m f i di id al g i c a e A alia a d ga i a i k. B e' e d i g j b if e' e al ki g i h c a e a e c ea e c l all afe a d i cl i e k lace . S e ee ha a a big a f ha e d . Y ee he e h he e a e, he lef i a m ki g ce em a d hi i a m ki g ce em ha e ed g ad a i ce em a Bl mbe g la ea a d ca ee he c d he e a ici a i g i ha ce em . A d he e he igh i j a cl e f ha . We al a f c gi l . S 60% f ch la hi g gi l a d e calc la e ha i h e e d f ch la hi e gi e a d he e c a l ecalib a e a e gi e ch la hi a d ch la hi fi i h. We al f c elde child e . S he e he e' a ch ice e ill al a gi e he ch la hi he elde child a d he ea f ha i ha he e ea ch h ed agai ha if gi e he ch la hi he elde child, he le m delli g i ha famil a d i ha c mm i i imme e. I ' like a i le i a b cke , a d e f c elde child e . We al le m del i f f de e alked ab I dige cce a d he e a e amba ad . Li da B e h i a H e f Re e e a i e membe , Blak D gla a d B ke B e h i Cha el 9 a d a j , Da l a , a m icia a d P fe A i a Hei h i a lific a h a d i e . A d he e le m del c me e e , he c me me i g da , he i e ac i h
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 13 de a d ide de he he eed hem. We had a a i g, ce a GO ch la al a a GO ch la a d hi h he e i f bea if l ea 12 a d i e i g ad a e la ea . Y ha e emembe g am i eall g. We a ed i h 15 ch la i 2015 a d hil da e ha e 532 a d each ea g ad a i g cla ill ge bigge a d bigge . The e a e he kid h g ad a ed la ea a d e, agai , held ha g ad a i ce em a Bl mbe g a d h e a he he a e ea i g b Zac Be e -B k h i a a i a d gi e a l f hi ime GO. Tha de ig i all g ad a i a he a d a lica i f m . S ha d e d a d h d e d all f ha ? H d e i c me ge he ? We ide ch la hi f m ki de ga e igh h gh i e i , blic a d i de e de ch l , i a a ha e' e al ead alked ab . Each e f ch la hi a e decided he ame c i e ia a d e alk a GO ab a GO a f d i g hi g a d I hi k ha ha GO a f d i g hi g c me h gh e e hi g f m c i e ia h e e d ime i h kid . O c i e ia a e me , e l k a , fi , a i a i a d ambi i . Wha d e he de a d af e ch l a d ha a e hei a i a i f f he ed ca i ? Tha e ea ch h ed ha if e ca ge de i a e i d f f he ed ca i af e ea 12 a d i d e ' ma e ha i i , i c ld be i e i , i c ld be TAFE, i c ld be a j b ead g am, i c ld be a e e e e hi accele a g am, - he-j b ai i g, j a e i d f c ed lea i g, he e f d ha all hi magic ha e . Obe i a e g d , i i a e g , m ki g a e dec ea e, child m ali dec ea e , he ec f i g hei h me g e , em l me ec i c ea e, a d em l me a e i c ea e. We f d life e ec a c ca e e cha ge. E e life i dica e alked ab i he a ea lie , e e i gle
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 14 e f hem i affec ed b ed ca i . S ha e ea ch Adam a d Michael did a he begi i g ha aid ed ca i a he le e , a ab l el igh . S e l k f ha i kid . We a kid h a e g i g g f he ed ca i , me hi g af e ea 12. We al l k f c l al e g h a d ide i a d he d ' ha e k h he a e, he d ' ha e k e e hi g ab hei hi a d he i age. The j ha e ha e ha dee - ea ed de i e k a d ha e ha e dem a ed ha de i e me he e i hei life. S he migh d I dige da ci g, he migh d elc me c a ch l, he migh d me i g f he de , he migh ake a i he I dige g am . We l k f ha c ec i me he e. We al l k f kid h gi e back a d e, I hi k e l k f ha i a mbe f eall i e e i g a . I c ld be ha he l k af e hei ibli g af e ch l hile M m a d Dad a e ki g, i c ld be ha he c k meal i he e e i g, i c ld be ha me f kid k a - ime j b gi e M m m e he a i g he e . S e l k f i i a a ie f a b ha e' e l ki g f i kid h he bef e hem el e beca e i d e ' ma e ha ci c m a ce h a e, e a kid h hi k ab he e le a d h a e g i g le d a ha d kid c mi g h gh he g am j like Michael a d Adam le a ha d hem. A d ha ' Michael a d Adam' e i e e h i gi i g back, c l al e g h, a i a i a d ambi i . S e l k f ha i de . We al he l k f a a i a d fi a cial eed. N fi a cial eed ed be a he f ha li , a d e eali ed ha fi a cial eed i f e he e. I ' me hi g e e e ha e g l ki g f . B i ' h e he hi g ha i dica e cce f .
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 15 S he ame c i e ia a l ac all ch la hi a d e gi e h e ch la hi , a I aid, f m ki de ga e i, e e i gle ch la hi ha he ame h ee c m e . The fi , a d I hi k he m im a i c l al a d a i a i al me i g. S i COVID, a d I ill alk a li le bi ab h e i ed h gh COVID, b i COVID e ed b i g kid ge he h ee ime a ea , f me i g a d he he ime f e e like he la ch e e hich i he lef -ha d h i hi lide, a d he g ad a i ce em . A d ca ee he e a mbe f diffe e h all f m me i g da a d e e a d he kid ha h e. A d i he b m igh -ha d c e ca ee Adam i h he e i e g ha da a d ha h i ake af e me I dige da ci g, a d he lef he e he e' Adam eadi g e f I dige ch l i h me e f he kid i he m i g. S ha c l al a d a i a i al me i g ed be deli e ed face face a d i ' ab ge i g kid i , e g he i g hei k ledge f h he a e a d h he ' e c ec ed hi c , a d hei he i age a d gi i g hem he e g h fall back he hi g ge gh. The af e i all ab a i a i , a d e migh b i g a e i ha da alk ab ca ee a h a , e migh b i g i e i ie a d TAFE i , e migh b i g he ga i a i alk ab hei ch la hi , e migh al b i g he cha i ie i alk ab he g am he ' e d i g a d ha e kid l ee h e g am . S h e da , I hi k, a e he ke f kid , he l e hem. A d e ha e e de h a a e i lide, h eall ggled c me ha da . She did ' hi k he e a g i g be a al e i i f he he fi da . A d he came a d I aid he "If c me a d
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 16 d ' like i , e e ha e c me agai ." A d da he e' a cial media g i g f m GO da called A Ya i h GO, ha celeb a e fi 15 de a d i ha he alk ab h he did ' a c me a d ca ' kee he a a . S I hi k h e me i g da a e eall he ea kid kee c mi g back. The ec d c m e i acce a d i . S e k i h ec em a e gi e i ie kid . A d e eali ed eall ea l he e e e c af i g hi m del ha e ca ' gi e he be i ie kid b el e . Wha e did a e c ea ed hi idea f a ec em a d i ' ba ed c llab a i a d c llab a i e hi ki g, a d e a k ec em a e , c a e a e , I dige a e , i di id al h c me ge he a d ide i ie kid ha he migh he i e ge acce . S he e i ie c ld be i e hi k e e ie ce, i i e Ba ga a e f ma ce . C ld be i i e e i g igh hea eake . S kid a e ded he e i g igh f he H ma Righ I i e a UNSW a d he g hea fi -ha d f m Magda S ba ki ab he e al ma iage deba e. I ' he e i ie ha , agai , g c ea i g le m del a d i g le m del i f f kid b al h i g hem he ibili ie f ha he c ld d . Sh i g hem ha ac all e ha e ch high e ec a i f hem. We hi k he ca d a hi g. The ca be a e. A d he l hi g i g hem i he lack f imagi a i a d de a di g ha ' he e f hem. A d ec em a e ide h e i ie . The hi d b cke , a d I hi k babl he lea im a b cke , b he e ha facili a e he e kid ' j e h gh ch l a d i e i , i fi a cial a i a ce. S he fi a cial a i a ce i caled acc di g he age a d i
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 17 a a ab $500 i ima ch l a d g e a ima el $10,000,$15,000 i i e i f he m e e e i e deg ee a d ha fi a cial a i a ce i all kid e e he la i g field. S if e g back ha e am le I alked ab he e he kid d ' ha e he la a d i-fi, all f a dde if he ha e a GO ch la hi , he ca b a la hich i b idi ed h gh GO. The ca ge i-fi i hei h e hich i al b idi ed h gh GO. The ca g e c i , he ca b eake f PE a d ch l h e . The ca b he if m ha he ' e ea i g. The i h ge acce i g m ical i me , he ca g ch l i a d cam f he fi ime a d ma f de ell he he ge a GO ch la hi , he a e d e c i f he fi ime a d ha he d ' feel le ha beca e he ' e e e ed he la i g field a d ha , , i i al. Beca e l ima el , he ke g am i maki g ha i h gh ch l a ich a d e a di g a e ibl ca . Beca e e belie e if e ca d ha , he de ill elf- elec f he ed ca i . Beca e h ld elf- elec f he ed ca i if ha j e h gh ch l a ha d a d e e ' e a i g a e e la i g field? S ha ' ha ch la hi d e . I b ade e ec i e , i e e he la i g field a d i h de e e da he ibili ie f ha he ca d a d ha he ca be a d I hi k ha i ha i i al i g am. COVID h e a c e ball f GO, j like i did f ma he ga i a i . A d e immedia el had m e ca cel all de e e . We had l k eall ickl f he a e e ide ha c l al a d a i a i al me i g a d gi e hem acce i ie a d I ha e - e ha e a mall eam a GO. The e a e l i f b I hi k m eam i a e a di a eam a d he ked ha d d i g
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 18 COVID make e ha e did ' d de , ha he c i ed ge acce he ame g am ha e had mi ed hem. S e he la fe m h i h COVID, e' e d e a mbe f i e e i g hi g . We cha ged - e de el ed a eekl e le e called GOQ hich e c a e el e . I ha c e f m a e i i a d e ha e c l e a d a i a i h gh ha . A he begi i g i a a eall g ea a f al ha i g i al i f ma i COVID. Tha ha c i ed a d i ill c i e . A he begi i g f COVID e e e e i e he eed f kid i e e e eek. Wha e elea ed, a e hi a a i h COVID, a d I' e had hi c e a i i h ma c a e h aid he ame hi g, ha e' e ea ed i m e f a i e , e eali ed e did ' eed ha e le e e e eek, he kid , he e gageme c e e e d i g ff a d e e e e eek a d I ec b he e d f he ea i ill d d e e m h. The he hi g e did a e a ed de el li e me i g g am e i de a d e' e g i g c i e d i g ha . S i he fi e ha e deli e ed, Adam a d Michael did a a e i he e he alked de h all Z med i a d he alked ab hei li ed e e ie ce. A d he kid had a i a k e i . A d ha a a bea if l e i . I ' a ama i g hi g ee de i , a ki g hei id l e i a d he e de alk f ha m j a li le bi alle , i h hei h lde j a li le bi aigh e , beca e he ca ee ha he e g a e i hei c a d he a e he e back hem. We al ha e Adam Hill, Blak D gla , e f amba ad , alk ab hi j e h gh A alia i h m ic a d hi e e ie ce i h didge id a d m ic, a d he kid e e e e gaged. I a a eall de f l, de f l e i .
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 19 The abili i digi all ha gi e i igh i ha e c ld be a d I ill alk ab ha i he f e - i a fe mi e beca e I hi k i h COVID, e ld ' ha e had me eall e ci i g idea f f e a d, k , i ' eall i e e i g h he e idea e l e. The he hi g e did d i g COVID i e eali ed eall ickl ha if ' e a de a d did ' ha e a la i-fi d i g ha COVID l ckd , e e g i g be h f lea i g. A d e k e ha he e e e I dige kid he e i h he e l . We ke he ch l a d he ld he e a a big dema d. S e ickl e ked i h a e a d i h he NIAA, a d e ga e 230 ech l g ch la hi . Each ch la hi had a mbe f c m e , i had he la a d he i-fi, hich e ga e , i had 24/7 li e i g, ch l a d bjec h gh S di i , a e . I had acce all c l al me i g li e a d e e e able he e de i ch i h hi d a he e he eeded hem. Wha ha h ed i e did ' ha e deli e face- -face g am make a diffe e ce. Tha ac all , e c ld deli e g am li e a d e c ld be j a effec i e li e a e e e face face. We ld l e ee kid , I eam i all d i g f hi fi i h e ca ee kid i e . B e d ' k h l g ha ' g i g be. S e' e ki g a g am hich, a d I d ' ha e a ime f ame , b e belie e e ca deli e hi g am egi al a d em e A alia h gh a digi al la f m. N l ki g a digi al a a cha el f di ib i b l ki g a i a a lace he e e b i g de ge he , ega dle f he e he li e. A d e hi k e ca ide h e ame a h a ha e ide de i ba a ea de i em e a d egi al a ea . S e' e e , e e ci ed b ha .
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 20 Beca e f all he k e did d i g COVID, e e a ded fa e ha e had e ec ed e a d a d a I me i ed, e, da , ha e 532 de . A d ca ee me f he i e ac i he e ha lide. We a e eall d f all f he e kid a d he - I hi k he ill g be leade f he f e, h ha e ca d if e ac all k ge he a d emb ace each he . A d bef e I fi i h, I a ed ha e i h e f h ec em came ge he e de . I 2017, ab h ee eek bef e he HSC, e ecei ed a email i GO i f b f m a g cial ke h aid ha he'd bee ki g - he ked a Life Wi h Ba ie a d he a ki g i h a g ma h a li i g i - f-h me ca e. Thi g ma had bee ecla ified i he - f-h me ca e g am beca e he c ld ' fi d a f e h me. He a a 17- ea - ld I dige ma a d he de i e h a 17- ea - ld I dige ma a ' high am g f e ca e a d he had him i - f-h me ca e. He a li i g i i le di g he e he did ' feel afe a d he ha ed me f he ie ha he had f li i g i h e di g . Thi email a e imila l f email e ge , e ce f e hi g. A he e d f ha email i aid he a ed be a a h ici a d ha eall i ed m a e i . I eached hi g cial ke a d a ked f m e i f ma i a d hi e l ed i me mee i g he a d hi g ma , Da id, f c ffee e af e . S e g ha email ab he Wed e da . O he M da e me f c ffee. A d hi g ma aid me - I aid, "Wha d eed f m me? Wha ca e d f ?" A d he aid, "If ca j ge me a afe lace li e, I ill d he e ." He aid, "I mi e I'll k ha d." S he e da I e a email ec em a e , a d I a ked f a mbe f hi g . I a ked f hei gi e him a afe
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 21 lace li e, gi e him acce me f he HSC, gi e him acce a j b i he Ch i ma h lida a d acce i e i . A d e m ha e ha ed ab 35 email ha da am g a cl e g f ec em a e a d b 9:00, I had a e he h e i ea beca e S G eg ' C llege had ffe ed him a lace li e he he he a ed g he e . GHD ffe ed him a a - ime j b a d UTS ffe ed him a ice-cha cell ch la hi a d li ed a UTS hile he died a Bachel f Scie ce deg ee. He m ed i ST G eg ' C llege he S da . He l had h ee eek lef a d he ch l aid him d ' eed ea a if m, ca g ld ch l. He k e l k a d a d aid he a ed a he e. The ea 12 kid e a d all ga e a f hei if m Da id he c ld ea ch l if m f he la h ee eek a d he a e ded S G eg ' C llege il he HSC. The he ecei ed f m ha ch l i he la h ee eek ai ed hi ma k i he ial b 25 ma k . He ked a GHD, g i i ed be a e gi ee a d a ed ki g i h hei e gi ee a d he he a ed e gi ee i g a UTS i he Ja a . N Da id' ill c ec ed GO b e' e lea a l i ce he a d e' e lea ha e e f , hil e al a aim d he igh hi g a d g d hi g , e e child ill cceed h gh GO. Da id i ill i h GO, he' ill a i, he' ill ki g i h Ma k, head f ch la hi , ge he ed ca i ha he a . B i h ma kid e' e eali ed ha he g am i eall b il f child e h had ha ambi i a d a i a i hem el e . Like Da id aid, he a ed be a a h ici . S e' e lea i g, e' e i g c me mea eme i , e' e eall i g de a d he e e ca eak g am. We ha e a i c edible eam f e le h a e d i e e e da hei hea a d
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 22 l i hi g am. A d I am j a ca e ake . Adam a d Michael, hi i hei i i a d I h e da I' e ha ed i h a li le bi ab hei i i a d ha he ' e i g d . Thi i hei legac , a d i ce e a ed e' e ake he g am i Adelaide, a d M da e la ched i Ca be a. A d e h e ha i h e g am e ca ake hi g am e e f he a d make a eal, eal diffe e ce. If a e ' ead he Ul a eme , I ld ge all ead i . I ' a ailable he GO eb i e. I ' a i i a i f m I dige A alia alk i h hem i hi m eme a d j e f a be e c . Tha k . STEVE BATY: Tha k m ch, Shi le . I ' ch a g d a d ha idea ha child e h ha e ha ambi i , h ha e ha de i e, h ha e ha c i i a e ' g i g be held back beca e f hei ci c m a ce, i e ac l ha e h ld be aimi g f a a cie . Tha e ca f ll he g ea e e e ha e ch e, a he ha ci c m a ce dic a e. SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: Ab l el . STEVE BATY: Tha ' a de f l, de f l hi g. SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: D ' le m e be he ea d ' d me hi g. We ca fi m e . M e i e e g i g be he i e. Wha e' e l ki g f i kid h , k , kid h make he eff a d kid h k ha if he k ha d he e' a c ec i be ee ha d k a d cce . STEVE BATY: Tha ' de f l. I a g a e i ha ' bee
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 23 i he Q&A a el a d i ' bee ed a m l . I a m famil i ff he Wa gi e le, ha m e al e e ie ce i g i g a hi e middle cla , i e di c ec ed f m c l e. I d ' feel like I ha e a igh be ac i e beca e f m backg d a d a ea a ce. H ca I lea m e, c ec , gi e back i mea i gf l a ? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: T be h e , I'm e I ha e he a h i a e ha e i a a -I dige e . I feel ha c l e i me hi g e ecial a d ha ha a e h ld c me f m Adam a d Michael a he I dige e . I hi k f m m e ec i e, e ha e de a GO h ha e - h k ha he ' e Ab igi al b ha e e e had ha c ec i h gh hei li e . S e g ma , h e Ab igi al fa he ha bee i jail hi h le life, a d he' e e had a c ec i . Wha e eek d a GO i e eek ide a ich e f de a di g a d k ledge h gh g am a d e ell kid ha if ' e a Wi adj i ' e Gadigal, e ' gi e k ledge ha i ecific m b ecific he i age. Wha e ill gi e i a dee e de a di g f I dige c l e ac A alia. A d I ha e - I ill e e eak f Adam a d Michael, b ha e h i ha e i , I ld gge ha ha e a m ch a h i a d igh del e i c l e a a he e a d I k ha Adam a d Michael a d amba ad a e al a a i g ha c l e i he e be ha ed a d I j hi k h f a e a e e i hi c ha I dige A alia a ha e ha c l e i h . I ca l a ha if I dige A alia a ha e ha c l e i h me, a d I' e bee f a e hea a d be a f ha , he i ' a -b ai e ha he ld a ha e ha c l e i h . S I ld e c age g a d a k e i a d lea a m ch
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 24 a ca beca e m life i be e f ha i g lea ab I dige c l e a d, k , I imagi e ha ld be he ca e f e e b d . STEVE BATY: Tha k . Ke i a k A alia a e g ea a d a i g ea h ake ami ic im ac he gl be, h d hi k e d ' c ib e I dige e le ? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: I'm e ha e d ' , be h e . GO ha bee i c edibl f a e hich e ha e bee he eci ie f all f d a i a d he ece Black Li e Ma e m eme a diffe e . Pe le e e l ki g f a le f d a i a d e e e, I hi k, e f he ga i a i ha a he be eficia f ha hi ki g. T me, hil I'm e ha e d ' d a e he ca e, I hi k me ime e lack a ge e i f i i a d e f ge ha I dige A alia a e Fi Na i e le, e e he e f 60,000 ea bef e a d, k , e' e g e h gh ch a b le hi i hi c a d e' e al a ge e e gh ack ledge he h f ha hi . A d me, i ' m ch m e ab a ge e i f i i a d a e i g f a m a d emb ace a ha hi i - hi c ha e call A alia i c ha i be ha ed a d I dige A alia ha e e e e e gge ed ha ha ' he ca e. S I hi k, k , i c me f m ha lack f ge e i f i i c me f m a mbe f diffe e a ea . Pe ha e' e ca ed, e ha e d ' de a d, a d I hi k ha ' h he Ul a eme i im a beca e i i ch a ge e i i a i , k . S I hi k i a he e. STEVE BATY: Tha ' g ea . A he e i , I'll ead i . I a ha k
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 25 , ha a de f l a d ma lea i g f de ig e . Wha e ce d ec mme d f lea ab hi c l e ha e ca de ig f c ? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: L k, ha ' a eall g ea e i a d, k , I dige e le a e he bigge a l f i f ma i . O eb i e e' e g he Ul a eme , e' e g a age c l e a d e ha e a l f a eb i e. The e a e ma g ea b k . The S d e Wa , he e' b k hi , B ce Pa c e' Da k Em alk ab ag ic l al hi a d he fi bake e e e e I dige . O ag ic l al - he I dige ag ic l al me h d l g ha e' e ed i hi c ha led ai able fa mi g a d he e e e g i g h gh h e d eadf l b hfi e , k , ma e le a k he e i - he e ld e be if e c i ed ha ai able fa mi g? S b k , he fi A alia , SBS, NITV, he e a e j de f l a l f i f ma i a d I ld e c age e e b d del e i i . I k d i g he c fe e ce ' e all hea d a l ab de ig i g f di e i a d b i gi g i diffe e mi d e de ig i g. I hi k ha i im a . We eed a eaki g all A alia a d e eed a eaki g h gh de ig a d h gh c e e e A alia be i cl i e a d I hi k i e f e h gh c ci bia a d h gh i ileged b i gi g e h e le i h eali i g i . STEVE BATY: Nigel a Ne Zeala d ha had i ggle c l all a d c i e b he ' e had g ea cce i i g I dige c l e fi . Ha he e bee a lea i g f m h Ne Zeala d ha a ached hi i e?
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    i f a li e e e a d he ef e ma c ai e . Thi a c i i he j i e f Ca i LIVE a d he a h i ed a e ible f a me a d ma be c ied ed b a he a i h a h i a i . Page 27 bee c i lea m e ab I dige k ledge. I ' g ea he e' a d a i c e b h d e m e h gh ha a ecia i g he al e e ca all be efi f m I dige k ledge? SHIRLEY CHOWDRY: I hi k e' e ke ab ha i e a bi al ead . I hi k i ha a i h he Ul a eme . I k I kee c mi g back ha b i i , I hi k, e f he m im a d c me ha ha bee i e i hi c . I i a i i a i f m I dige A alia e e b d el e j i i h hem hi j e . A d i g e back d a i g i im a , ab l el , a d i h d a i GO ha b i e c e. We el d a i i e h e ch la hi . B i ' ab c ea i g i . I ' ab he li le hi g . If a b i e , make e a e e i g h e i ie e e b d a d j bef e I g , S e e, I ill ha e a e ick . O e f a e ld me he a ca ee igh e e ea he e he b i g i g ad a e . S g ad a e a l f hi ca ee igh , he c me i , he a e ie f k h a d ki d f a k h gh he e e i g a d he a he e d f he igh he ick e g ad a e d a i e hi i h hem, a d he aid, "We d ' de a d h e' e ge i g I dige kid c mi g hi ca ee igh ." A d he e e a d l ked a me f he c al i e i he e. The d i a igh if ' e c mi g f m Cam bell e e S d e a d fi i h a 11:00, ca ' a el h me. The e d he i i a i i e i ie , i a , I hi k, S d e a d Ne S h back he he e e mi i g a c h i he i e i ie ha e e e iall m e di e e. A d he e e ' e di g all he i f ma i blic ch l . The e e e a h le a ge f diffe e hi g ha e e i he e. S I'd j e c age e e b d ha he g de fl e , a k elf i he e a I dige lie I ca e? If g i
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