out calls time wasters. Things that are not urgent and not important. So do you really need to do this? It's all are there so many? Like, it's just it's hard to say no. It's hard to not do things, especially when other people expect it of us. But realistically, we only have so much time in a day, like we just don't have the ability to do all the things. So some some things are going to have to be eliminated. They are time wasters. Because what's more important, the things that are up here, the things that are in, escalate and cultivate. So I know it's hard. But there are going to be things that we have to say no to, and it might feel important at the time, but it's not actually important. Patricia Sung 05:45 So things like extra volunteer commitments, or, you know, I love the example that Tonya gives in the book, the joint missing out, she says there's, you've got to return to target, it's the last year you can return it. And you feel like this is both urgent and important, right? Like you don't want to lose your $15. And you also it's the last day, but if you have to cut something out, is that worth the like, 30 minute trip in your day? Could you better spend that 30 minutes somewhere else? And like give that shirt to a friend? Like can you predict it for a birthday gift for someone? Can you give it to a friend at church who could use a new shirt. Patricia Sung 06:37 Like, for some people, like it's not even worth that 30 minutes, because you just have too much to do that day, it's not worth it. And that's hard for us to accept these, like, I don't want to start with $13, right. But we also can look at that and be like, you know what I learned a lesson of, I shouldn't have just thrown that in my cart and bought it, I should have taken the time. And I know you say that I don't like the word should but like teaching ourselves a lesson here, like next time, I'm not going to just throw it in the cart, I am going to either try it on, or I'm just not going to buy it. And that's okay to be like, Hey, that was a $15 lesson I learned. Let me find a good way to use this shirt for something else. So in our minds, very few things are going to fall in this time wasters category. Because we are going to feel like all the things are important, our brain is not good at prioritizing. Patricia Sung 07:35 So when you have to sit through and sort them all, and look at each thing individually and put it in the different categories, it gives you more perspective to say whether or not this thing is really worth getting done. Does it really matter to you? Does it actually need to be accomplished? Can you give it to someone else? Can you let it go? And over time this skill gets developed. So I don't want you beating yourself up at the beginning. Like this is something that you'll start to find your goalposts, that you might be in a season where that $15 matters, and you're getting that shirt back. And there's gonna be times in your life. You're like, you know what, this is now my sister's birthday gift and we're moving on with our lives. Patricia Sung 08:15 Okay, so you will develop that skill as you go and your goalposts will be different than my